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    Re: U.S. admiral raises alarm over Russian military threat

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    Russia has stronger leadership. That is the difference.
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    Re: U.S. admiral raises alarm over Russian military threat

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Russia has stronger leadership. That is the difference.
    Well color me shocked that the fascist, islamophone admires a tyrant like Putin.

    More proof the extreme right are more impressed with displays of bravado rather than effective policy.

    If you think Russia has strong leadership, when a lot of its government is beholden to criminal elements, high levels of corruption incompetence and their president has gambled away the economy for a few scraps of land well then I'm afraid it makes it all the more clear how you really think.

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    Re: U.S. admiral raises alarm over Russian military threat

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Well color me shocked that the fascist, islamophone admires a tyrant like Putin.
    Where did I say I admired Putin?

    Have your parents considered remedial reading for your comprehension difficulties?

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    Re: U.S. admiral raises alarm over Russian military threat

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Despite Russia's latest escapades I'd like to remind you it's no longer 1980.

    Russia's "power" is absolutely in no way comparable to the U.S. in any way, economically, militarily or politically as it was as the Soviet Union, I notice there's a trend among Cold War era fellas like yourself to severely overestimate Russia's power.
    When your country becomes a superpower, I'll sit back and relax and not worry.
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    Re: U.S. admiral raises alarm over Russian military threat

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    But Ukraine does want membership, and Putin will resist it, and I don't blame him.
    They certainly want membership now and Lithuania wants troops on the ground. It will be very difficult to say "Njet" now. Of course, we should have done all this before Putin put on a war of aggression and grabbed the Krim. You see, if you knew rRussians, you saw this coming. They are not like Americans in this. But I don't want to get into that right now.

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    Re: U.S. admiral raises alarm over Russian military threat

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    No, it's not clear. And China isn't interested in closing sea lanes, they're even creating a new one as we speak in Central America. It's just that there's at least some that they want to control! And that's the rub for America, but, nobody remains in control forever.
    I didn't say China was interested in closing sea lanes. You said that. China is interested in dominating sea lanes to the detriment of other, smaller nation states - see Viet Nam, Phillipines and Japan, for example. They're interested in seizing land as well. Russia is behaving similarly. They pursue dominance through force to achieve what they cannot economically.

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    Re: U.S. admiral raises alarm over Russian military threat

    Quote Originally Posted by humbolt View Post
    I didn't say China was interested in closing sea lanes. You said that. China is interested in dominating sea lanes to the detriment of other, smaller nation states - see Viet Nam, Phillipines and Japan, for example. They're interested in seizing land as well. Russia is behaving similarly. They pursue dominance through force to achieve what they cannot economically.
    Good morning, humbolt.

    : China is interested in a few contested islands in the area of the South China Sea that they feel are theirs, and they want them back. Throw another log on the global fire....

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    Re: U.S. admiral raises alarm over Russian military threat

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Good morning, humbolt.

    : China is interested in a few contested islands in the area of the South China Sea that they feel are theirs, and they want them back. Throw another log on the global fire....
    Good morning Pol. Yep. China is interested in dominating the South China Sea, among other things. It is understandable that they will dominate that region economically. However, extending hegemony through force to the detriment of surrounding nations runs counter to that which we typically associate with free trade and good will. Russia, in similar fashion holds Europe hostage to fuel while taking those pieces through force it deems necessary for it's planned dominance of the eastern Mediterranean. Arguments that the US does similar things do not match the actions those two states are committed to. While it's true our slate is not clean and never will be, we do not take actions that rise to the level we are witnessing from China and Russia, and others, like Iran.

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    Re: U.S. admiral raises alarm over Russian military threat

    Quote Originally Posted by humbolt View Post
    Good morning Pol. Yep. China is interested in dominating the South China Sea, among other things. It is understandable that they will dominate that region economically. However, extending hegemony through force to the detriment of surrounding nations runs counter to that which we typically associate with free trade and good will. Russia, in similar fashion holds Europe hostage to fuel while taking those pieces through force it deems necessary for it's planned dominance of the eastern Mediterranean. Arguments that the US does similar things do not match the actions those two states are committed to. While it's true our slate is not clean and never will be, we do not take actions that rise to the level we are witnessing from China and Russia, and others, like Iran.
    : None of them seem to worry over-much about what we may think, either, and I find that disturbing. Are we being baited to learn something they need to know? When ancient adversaries like Russia and China - both secretive as a people - become allies and team up, it does make one wonder what's up!

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    Re: U.S. admiral raises alarm over Russian military threat

    Quote Originally Posted by humbolt View Post
    I didn't say China was interested in closing sea lanes. You said that. China is interested in dominating sea lanes to the detriment of other, smaller nation states - see Viet Nam, Phillipines and Japan, for example. They're interested in seizing land as well. Russia is behaving similarly. They pursue dominance through force to achieve what they cannot economically.
    Right. Like I said, it's been the US dominating sea lanes, and that's changing, better be prepared to live with it.
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