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    Sweden U-turn on Assange questioning

    'Swedish prosecutors have offered to travel to London to question Wikileaks founder Julian Assange over sex assault allegations.

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    A Swedish prosecutor explained the change of strategy by saying potential charges against Mr Assange would expire under the statute of limitations in August.'


    BBC News - Julian Assange case: Sweden U-turn on questioning


    I have no idea if he did it or not...my guess is the whole thing was overblown. But again, I do not know.
    Either way, I do feel for the guy being stuck in captivity for all this time for fear of becoming by deported to America.

    And I do think this guy is good for the world (outside of these charges).

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    Re: Sweden U-turn on Assange questioning

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    'Swedish prosecutors have offered to travel to London to question Wikileaks founder Julian Assange over sex assault allegations.

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    A Swedish prosecutor explained the change of strategy by saying potential charges against Mr Assange would expire under the statute of limitations in August.'


    BBC News - Julian Assange case: Sweden U-turn on questioning


    I have no idea if he did it or not...my guess is the whole thing was overblown. But again, I do not know.
    Either way, I do feel for the guy being stuck in captivity for all this time for fear of becoming by deported to America.

    And I do think this guy is good for the world (outside of these charges).
    By the law of many lands the charges were rather overblown. That will happen between jurisdictions. In Sweden, however, what he has been accused of by the women is rape. But the Idea that the Swedes would deport him, while the UK would not is rather odd. Also I never quite understood why he would be wanted in the US. He was acting as a reporter in quite the Anglo Saxon tradition. We have lots of reporters that are not in jail although they published stolen evidence of government wrong doing. Usually we do not shoot the messenger.

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    Re: Sweden U-turn on Assange questioning

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    By the law of many lands the charges were rather overblown. That will happen between jurisdictions. In Sweden, however, what he has been accused of by the women is rape. But the Idea that the Swedes would deport him, while the UK would not is rather odd. Also I never quite understood why he would be wanted in the US. He was acting as a reporter in quite the Anglo Saxon tradition. We have lots of reporters that are not in jail although they published stolen evidence of government wrong doing. Usually we do not shoot the messenger.
    I will admit that I thought Assange seemed like he was being a tad paranoid about the deportation.

    However, America could have helped by saying publicly that they had no plans whatsoever to ask Sweden for deportation. And given America's recent history at grabbing people and sending them wherever they want without notice, I would be more then a little concerned were I Assange as well.

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    Re: Sweden U-turn on Assange questioning

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    I will admit that I thought Assange seemed like he was being a tad paranoid about the deportation.

    However, America could have helped by saying publicly that they had no plans whatsoever to ask Sweden for deportation. And given America's recent history at grabbing people and sending them wherever they want without notice, I would be more then a little concerned were I Assange as well.
    I think maybe there was a low level statement. But I believe you are absolutely right. It would have called for a very up front and visible statement, that the US was not interested in prosecution.

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    Re: Sweden U-turn on Assange questioning

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    'Swedish prosecutors have offered to travel to London to question Wikileaks founder Julian Assange over sex assault allegations.
    A Swedish prosecutor explained the change of strategy by saying potential charges against Mr Assange would expire under the statute of limitations in August.'
    BBC News - Julian Assange case: Sweden U-turn on questioning
    I have no idea if he did it or not...my guess is the whole thing was overblown. But again, I do not know.
    Either way, I do feel for the guy being stuck in captivity for all this time for fear of becoming by deported to America.

    And I do think this guy is good for the world (outside of these charges).
    I don't know about his guilt in the "rape" case, but from what I read it was extremely sketchy at best, and considering the obvious motivation for others to pin it on him, I highly doubt that he actually did it.

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    By the law of many lands the charges were rather overblown. That will happen between jurisdictions. In Sweden, however, what he has been accused of by the women is rape. But the Idea that the Swedes would deport him, while the UK would not is rather odd. Also I never quite understood why he would be wanted in the US. He was acting as a reporter in quite the Anglo Saxon tradition. We have lots of reporters that are not in jail although they published stolen evidence of government wrong doing. Usually we do not shoot the messenger.
    That's been kind of the unfortunate trend over the last decade or so. When major illegal and or objectionable acts are brought to light by reporters, the government simply goes after the reporters. It's easier than having to explain themselves to the public. I think it's a very dangerous trend.
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    Re: Sweden U-turn on Assange questioning

    Looks like Julian Assange not only outsmarted the Swedes but the US state department too. I wonder how long will it take for him to get wikileaks up and running again now that this ordeal appears to be over for him. Whats even more important is which country will he be residing in the future?

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    Re: Sweden U-turn on Assange questioning

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    I don't know about his guilt in the "rape" case, but from what I read it was extremely sketchy at best, and considering the obvious motivation for others to pin it on him, I highly doubt that he actually did it.



    That's been kind of the unfortunate trend over the last decade or so. When major illegal and or objectionable acts are brought to light by reporters, the government simply goes after the reporters. It's easier than having to explain themselves to the public. I think it's a very dangerous trend.
    I had derived more the impression that the government went after the person that illegally divulged the info and let the reporter off. There have been other cases, but in general that has been my observation. Anything else would be really bad.

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    Re: Sweden U-turn on Assange questioning

    Quote Originally Posted by PoS View Post
    Looks like Julian Assange not only outsmarted the Swedes but the US state department too. I wonder how long will it take for him to get wikileaks up and running again now that this ordeal appears to be over for him. Whats even more important is which country will he be residing in the future?
    You think so? My take would be that he had a real problem having committed rape (as defined in Sweden). That could have landed him in jail for a couple of years. But as far as I can tell, he had nothing much to fear from the US. Greenwald and the other reporters are all okay, from what I read.

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    Re: Sweden U-turn on Assange questioning

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    I had derived more the impression that the government went after the person that illegally divulged the info and let the reporter off. There have been other cases, but in general that has been my observation. Anything else would be really bad.
    You must've not been paying attention when the first big WikiLeaks happened. Just about every politician on Capitol Hill was screaming bloody murder and that Assange must be extradited and tried for "treason" in the US. You know, because Assad is an American. This was one of the few bipartisan consensuses of our generation.
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    Re: Sweden U-turn on Assange questioning

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    You must've not been paying attention when the first big WikiLeaks happened. Just about every politician on Capitol Hill was screaming bloody murder and that Assange must be extradited and tried for "treason" in the US. You know, because Assad is an American. This was one of the few bipartisan consensuses of our generation.
    Yep. There was a lot of jumping up and down and making asses of themselves. There are a lot of idiots around, you know.
    But it calmed down and reason prevailed. Assange didn't, after all, do the harm. I am not even aware that he broke an American law. So why should he be afraid of being extradited. Going to jail on a rape charge would be unpleasant, but the Americans were not after him, I don't think.
    Maybe I will be proven wrong, but I believe that that was all about people believing their own propaganda.

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