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    Re: Sweden U-turn on Assange questioning

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Didn't Bradley Manning or whatever she is calling herself these days give Assange and Wikileaks all the material that Manning is now spending decades in prison for?
    Yep. By doing so she committed treason, breach of ssecurity, endangered the lives of other government employees as a soldier and God knows what else. But Assange was not bound by any of those laws and contracts.

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    Re: Sweden U-turn on Assange questioning

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    By the law of many lands the charges were rather overblown. That will happen between jurisdictions. In Sweden, however, what he has been accused of by the women is rape. But the Idea that the Swedes would deport him, while the UK would not is rather odd. Also I never quite understood why he would be wanted in the US. He was acting as a reporter in quite the Anglo Saxon tradition. We have lots of reporters that are not in jail although they published stolen evidence of government wrong doing. Usually we do not shoot the messenger.
    Perhaps traditionally so... but one of my biggest criticisms of Obama is the fervent prosecution of whistle blowers under his administration which has been very untraditionally harsh.
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    Re: Sweden U-turn on Assange questioning

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    Perhaps traditionally so... but one of my biggest criticisms of Obama is the fervent prosecution of whistle blowers under his administration which has been very untraditionally harsh.
    Oh. I don't like Obama much, but Assange didn't break any laws, did he?

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    Re: Sweden U-turn on Assange questioning

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    Perhaps traditionally so... but one of my biggest criticisms of Obama is the fervent prosecution of whistle blowers under his administration which has been very untraditionally harsh.
    Particularly after promising to improve whistleblower protections. As with his promise to be the most transparent administration, he should have just not made those two issues a part of his campaign platform.
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    Re: Sweden U-turn on Assange questioning

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    Oh. I don't like Obama much, but Assange didn't break any laws, did he?
    Not in my opinion. I think Assange is the messenger. There may be a case against Snowden... and maybe not... but reporting on Snowden's finds doesn't seem like a crime. To me if the US were to go after Assange it would be a violation of the 1st amendment in jailing the press for reporting. But I don't think the constitution matters much anymore when people are hellbent in this war/prosecution mode.
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    Re: Sweden U-turn on Assange questioning

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    Not in my opinion. I think Assange is the messenger. There may be a case against Snowden... and maybe not... but reporting on Snowden's finds doesn't seem like a crime. To me if the US were to go after Assange it would be a violation of the 1st amendment in jailing the press for reporting. But I don't think the constitution matters much anymore when people are hellbent in this war/prosecution mode.
    That makes sense, though, I do see a rather stong case against Snowden.

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    Re: Sweden U-turn on Assange questioning

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    That makes sense, though, I do see a rather stong case against Snowden.
    I wonder if the case against Snowden is as tight as the case against Petraeus? In your opinion?

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    Re: Sweden U-turn on Assange questioning

    Quote Originally Posted by Henry David View Post
    I wonder if the case against Snowden is as tight as the case against Petraeus? In your opinion?
    I am not well enough acquainted with the Petraeus case. But what is certain is that the position in a hierarchy will often allow discretion that cannot be generally allowed. This is already true at much lower levels of any organization.

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    Re: Sweden U-turn on Assange questioning

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    I am not well enough acquainted with the Petraeus case. But what is certain is that the position in a hierarchy will often allow discretion that cannot be generally allowed. This is already true at much lower levels of any organization.
    Basically, Petraeus has pleaded guilty to giving classified material to his lover and biographer. He provided her with documents she had no business reading.

    Jeffrey Sharp was just tried for the same thing last month, convicted, and sentenced I think to 30 years in prison. John Kiriakou, formerly of the CIA did the same thing, served his sentence and is now in the halfway house.

    Snowden is accused of the same thing those 2 did.

    Betrayus does not go to jail, the little guys get obscene sentences for informing the public of the crimes of government.

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    Re: Sweden U-turn on Assange questioning

    Quote Originally Posted by Henry David View Post
    Basically, Petraeus has pleaded guilty to giving classified material to his lover and biographer. He provided her with documents she had no business reading.

    Jeffrey Sharp was just tried for the same thing last month, convicted, and sentenced I think to 30 years in prison. John Kiriakou, formerly of the CIA did the same thing, served his sentence and is now in the halfway house.

    Snowden is accused of the same thing those 2 did.

    Betrayus does not go to jail, the little guys get obscene sentences for informing the public of the crimes of government.

    What's wrong with this picture?
    It sounds bad for P And it should be tried if it was as you say. But in any event it does not mean Snowden should go free.

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