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    F.C.C. Sets Net Neutrality Rules

    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/13/te...ules.html?_r=0

    WASHINGTON — The Federal Communications Commission on Thursday released extensive details of how it would regulate broadband Internet providers as a public utility, producing official wording that almost certainly sets the stage for extended legal fights.
    We could read further on what the NYT says about it, but I much prefer the original source.

    Here are the 400 pages of terrifying government takeover of the internet, wherein now only the government will be allowed to sell internet access and they will assume direct control over all content.

    http://transition.fcc.gov/Daily_Rele...CC-15-24A1.pdf

    Not that any of that is actually written into these rules, of course.

    As I suggested many times in earlier discussions, and was met with vehement disagreement from the right-wingers here, the order does not apply any and all Title II regulations blindly. I was scoffed at when I suggested that the FCC can waive rules in areas they don't make sense to apply. I was right.
    Notwithstanding the foregoing, for now we do forbear in part from the first sentence of
    section 254(d) and our associated rules insofar as they would immediately require new universal service
    contributions associated with broadband Internet access service.
    So, the scary internet tax is out. Numerous other provisions are exempted as well.

    Our Republican friend on the FCC really wanted us to see this scary 400 page document? The bulk of it is just long-winded explanation of what it has chosen to do and why, much of which is actually electing not to apply many of the Title II regulations.

    I haven't gotten through all of it yet, but I'm not seeing the end of the world here. Maybe some of the people predicting doomsday can point out specifically where the internet as we know it is going to dramatically change.
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    Re: F.C.C. Sets Net Neutrality Rules

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/13/te...ules.html?_r=0



    We could read further on what the NYT says about it, but I much prefer the original source.

    Here are the 400 pages of terrifying government takeover of the internet, wherein now only the government will be allowed to sell internet access and they will assume direct control over all content.

    http://transition.fcc.gov/Daily_Rele...CC-15-24A1.pdf

    Not that any of that is actually written into these rules, of course.

    As I suggested many times in earlier discussions, and was met with vehement disagreement from the right-wingers here, the order does not apply any and all Title II regulations blindly. I was scoffed at when I suggested that the FCC can waive rules in areas they don't make sense to apply. I was right.


    So, the scary internet tax is out. Numerous other provisions are exempted as well.

    Our Republican friend on the FCC really wanted us to see this scary 400 page document? The bulk of it is just long-winded explanation of what it has chosen to do and why, much of which is actually electing not to apply many of the Title II regulations.

    I haven't gotten through all of it yet, but I'm not seeing the end of the world here. Maybe some of the people predicting doomsday can point out specifically where the internet as we know it is going to dramatically change.
    I had no doubts the FCC would "pick and choose" Title II regulations accordingly...my thing was always about whether they have the the express authority to do so.


    but whatever... it'll all get hammered out in court... provided the administration doesn't try to bypass the judicial branch as well.

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    Re: F.C.C. Sets Net Neutrality Rules

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    As I suggested many times in earlier discussions, and was met with vehement disagreement from the right-wingers here, the order does not apply any and all Title II regulations blindly. I was scoffed at when I suggested that the FCC can waive rules in areas they don't make sense to apply. I was right.
    If you are speaking about arguing with me; No. You are misstating what occurred.

    Once the information was known that they may not immediately apply the tax, it wasn't argued that it would immediately be charged. But the tax still does apply as a Class II Utility as the rules require.

    Just what do you think "for now we do forbear" means?
    Let me clue you in, classifying it as they did still opens it up to be taxed as you were told.
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    Re: F.C.C. Sets Net Neutrality Rules

    Quote Originally Posted by CMPancake View Post
    What's that, Ted Cruz and the other talking heads like Ron Paul were wrong? Shocker...
    How does "for now" mean they were wrong?
    It doesn't.
    It means that classifying it as such still opens it up to be taxed.
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    Re: F.C.C. Sets Net Neutrality Rules

    This is great news. As far as I can tell, all of the people against net neutrality are either jerks who want to screw up the Internet for profit or idiots who believe that jerks when they cover up their greed with lies about "protecting innovation" and "preventing government overreach". Like I said, this is great news and I'm glad to see that the "right" side won.

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    Re: F.C.C. Sets Net Neutrality Rules

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    This is great news. As far as I can tell, all of the people against net neutrality are either jerks who want to screw up the Internet for profit or idiots who believe that jerks when they cover up their greed with lies about "protecting innovation" and "preventing government overreach". Like I said, this is great news and I'm glad to see that the "right" side won.
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    Re: F.C.C. Sets Net Neutrality Rules

    Quote Originally Posted by CMPancake View Post
    What's that, Ted Cruz and the other talking heads like Ron Paul were wrong? Shocker...
    Ted Cruz was wrong at about Net Neutrality being "Obamacare For The Internet".

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    Re: F.C.C. Sets Net Neutrality Rules

    The government took control of the Internet so ultimately it will decide who is allowed and who isn't - with this being determined by political contributions, kickbacks and graft.

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    Re: F.C.C. Sets Net Neutrality Rules

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    How does "for now" mean they were wrong?
    It doesn't.
    It means that classifying it as such still opens it up to be taxed.
    Ted Cruz said Net Neutrality was Obamacare of the internet, and Ron Paul accused this ruling to be a government hijacking of the internet. Neither of these are proven to be true, and nor has their been any tax included on internet users. You can rag out this "they're gonna tax the internet" ****ck all you like, but I know you're well aware that it isn't the least bit true.

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    The government took control of the Internet so ultimately it will decide who is allowed and who isn't - with this being determined by political contributions, kickbacks and graft.
    None of this is the least bit true. Come join us in reality, we have wi-fi here.
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