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    Re: F.C.C. Sets Net Neutrality Rules

    Quote Originally Posted by CMPancake View Post
    The premature (and quite frankly, baseless) assertions made were from the anti-net neutrality camp. Even now with the reality of the situation shown to the world you still refuse to accept you were wrong. Move on.


    Net-neutrality you say?


    What page in the 318 does it speak to all packets being equal?
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    Re: F.C.C. Sets Net Neutrality Rules

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    Net-neutrality you say?


    What page in the 318 does it speak to all packets being equal?
    The page that says ISP's can't throttle customers for their data packets.

    http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2...explained.html

    In the 2014 Open Internet NPRM, the commission sought comment on suggestions to impose a flat ban on paid prioritization services, including whether all paid prioritization practices, or some of them, could be treated as per se violations of the commercially reasonable standard or any other standard based on any source of legal authority. For reasons explained below, we conclude that paid prioritization network practices harm consumers, competition, and innovation, as well as create disincentives to promote broadband deployment and, as such, adopt a bright-line rule against such practices. Accordingly, today we ban arrangements in which the broadband service provider accepts consideration (monetary or otherwise) from a third party to manage the network in a manner that benefits particular content, applications, services, or devices. We also ban arrangements where a provider manages its network in a manner that favors the content, applications, services or devices of an affiliated entity. Any broadband provider that engages in such practices will be subject to enforcement action, including forfeitures and other penalties. We adopt the following rule banning paid prioritization arrangements: A person engaged in the provision of broadband Internet access service, insofar as such person is so engaged, shall not engage in paid prioritization. “Paid prioritization” refers to the management of a broadband provider’s network to directly or indirectly favor some traffic over other traffic, including through use of techniques such as traffic shaping, prioritization, resource reservation, or other forms of preferential traffic management, either (a) in exchange for consideration (monetary or otherwise) from a third party, or (b) to benefit an affiliated entity.
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    Re: F.C.C. Sets Net Neutrality Rules

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Yeah. Thats it.
    I'm glad you've come to terms with the truth and realized that "wait for it" isn't an adequate argument.

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    Re: F.C.C. Sets Net Neutrality Rules

    Quote Originally Posted by CMPancake View Post
    The page that says ISP's can't throttle customers for their data packets.

    http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2...explained.html

    So that banned "traffic shaping"?
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    Re: F.C.C. Sets Net Neutrality Rules

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    So that banned "traffic shaping"?
    Yes, the FCC ruled paid prioritization and throttling internet based purely on the data alone. The internet is safe and sound.
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    Re: F.C.C. Sets Net Neutrality Rules

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    lol, with the cheerleading.


    from your article:

    “set to decide what is acceptable on a case-by-case basis. The regulations include a subjective catchall provision, requiring ‘just and reasonable’ conduct.”



    What is "just and reasonable"? That's up to the whims of the FCC.



    basically what you are cheerleading is a 318 page document that hands the keys to the internet over to the FCC and it's whims. Rules are not hard coded and will be made on the spot.

    So what does this mean? Players will look for advantages while accusing thier competition of unfair play. all jockeying for a government advantage.

    ISP's will not invest in future tech knowing the FCC can now arbritrarilly veto thier plans at any time.


    Now, in order to innovate and invest, these companies will need tacit approval from the FCC to move forward.


    and you all thought it was 300 pages of how all packets will be treated equally

    **** is that even in this thing?
    Standard nonspecific doomsaying. I'm more interested in concrete results. Let me know when you have some.
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    Re: F.C.C. Sets Net Neutrality Rules

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    Net-neutrality you say?


    What page in the 318 does it speak to all packets being equal?
    I'm not sure "all packets being equal" is an entirely accurate way to describe it. Paid prioritization is excluded quite clearly, if that's what you were asking about.
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    Re: F.C.C. Sets Net Neutrality Rules

    Quote Originally Posted by CMPancake View Post
    Yes, the FCC ruled paid prioritization and throttling internet based purely on the data alone. The internet is safe and sound.


    U sure that's a good idea?

    In the age off people working from home, should h.232 and sip traffic take priority over p2p?
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    Re: F.C.C. Sets Net Neutrality Rules

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Standard nonspecific doomsaying. I'm more interested in concrete results. Let me know when you have some.

    It's that or its the difference between a system engineer level of understanding vs partisan luddite true believer cheerleading based on ignorance. *shrug*
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    Re: F.C.C. Sets Net Neutrality Rules

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    I'm not sure "all packets being equal" is an entirely accurate way to describe it. Paid prioritization is excluded quite clearly, if that's what you were asking about.

    You folks need to make up your minds.
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