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    Re: F.C.C. Sets Net Neutrality Rules

    Quote Originally Posted by CMPancake View Post
    Ted Cruz said Net Neutrality was Obamacare of the internet, and Ron Paul accused this ruling to be a government hijacking of the internet. Neither of these are proven to be true, and nor has their been any tax included on internet users. You can rag out this "they're gonna tax the internet" ****ck all you like, but I know you're well aware that it isn't the least bit true.

    Clearly you know not of what you speak.
    Nor have you given time for full effect of the classification, which is pretty lame to make such a claim at this time.

    Just what do you think "for now we do forbear" means?
    Let me clue you in, classifying it as they did still opens it up to be taxed. Or did that skip your attention?

    As increasing Government involvement is what occurred, Obamacare for the internet is pretty much a relative comparison.
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    Re: F.C.C. Sets Net Neutrality Rules

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post

    Clearly you know not of what you speak.
    Nor have you given time for full effect of the classification, which is pretty lame to make such a claim at this time.

    Just what do you think "for now we do forbear" means?
    Let me clue you in, classifying it as they did still opens it up to be taxed. Or did that skip your attention?

    As increasing Government involvement is what occurred, Obamacare for the internet is pretty much a relative comparison.
    I won't argue with someone who has to perform mental gymnastics to defend something that has been debunked and proven wrong. Have a good one.
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    Re: F.C.C. Sets Net Neutrality Rules

    Quote Originally Posted by CMPancake View Post
    I won't argue with someone who has to perform mental gymnastics to defend something that has been debunked and proven wrong. Have a good one.

    The only mental gymnastics going on here are your premature assertions.
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    Re: F.C.C. Sets Net Neutrality Rules

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post

    The only mental gymnastics going on here are your premature assertions.
    The premature (and quite frankly, baseless) assertions made were from the anti-net neutrality camp. Even now with the reality of the situation shown to the world you still refuse to accept you were wrong. Move on.
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    Re: F.C.C. Sets Net Neutrality Rules

    Quote Originally Posted by CMPancake View Post
    The premature (and quite frankly, baseless) assertions made were from the anti-net neutrality camp. Even now with the reality of the situation shown to the world you still refuse to accept you were wrong. Move on.

    Holy ****!

    No, they were from you.
    Again, what did you not understand about "for now we do forbear"?

    It proves that classifying it as a Class II Utility opened it up for those fees to be assessed, exactly as we were informed.
    And proves your above statement to be baseless in that regard. Or in other words, a direct and deliberate lie.
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    Re: F.C.C. Sets Net Neutrality Rules

    The words mean there is nothing there for now. So, for now CM pancake is correct. And it means those who panicked like Cruz and Paul were wrong. While the words may leave a door open, as this is a changing word, it doesn't mean it will happen.

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    Re: F.C.C. Sets Net Neutrality Rules

    Now that the document is actually available to the public, Ted Cruz's supporters can show us where the taxes are. Better yet, they can show us where it says the government will take control of the internet. Better yet, they can show us what makes these rules similar in anyway to ObamaCare. Or they can show how the concept of net neutrality as stated here is Obamacare. Don't expect anything other than the parsing of words like "for now".
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    Re: F.C.C. Sets Net Neutrality Rules

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    The words mean there is nothing there for now. So, for now CM pancake is correct. And it means those who panicked like Cruz and Paul were wrong. While the words may leave a door open, as this is a changing word, it doesn't mean it will happen.

    It means that classifying it as a utility opened it up to fees being assessed where none could be before.
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    Re: F.C.C. Sets Net Neutrality Rules

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Now that the document is actually available to the public, Ted Cruz's supporters can show us where the taxes are.
    Oh look, another one who does not understand the wording of "for now we do forbear".
    It has already been shown where they are and how much they would be if implemented at this time.


    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Better yet, they can show us what makes these rules similar in anyway to ObamaCare. Or they can show how the concept of net neutrality as stated here is Obamacare.
    False and dishonest argument.
    Especially as the similarity is Government involvement where it doesn't need to be.


    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Don't expect anything other than the parsing of words like "for now".
    Lame argument, as the wording proves that the fees can now be assessed where they previously could not.
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    Re: F.C.C. Sets Net Neutrality Rules

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    If you are speaking about arguing with me; No. You are misstating what occurred.

    Once the information was known that they may not immediately apply the tax, it wasn't argued that it would immediately be charged. But the tax still does apply as a Class II Utility as the rules require.

    Just what do you think "for now we do forbear" means?
    Let me clue you in, classifying it as they did still opens it up to be taxed as you were told.
    I have no idea what you argued specifically. It was argued to me that the FCC must levy this tax, and clearly they are not required to. They can, but wont necessarily do it. That was my argument all along. You are the one misstating things.
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