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    Re: Emmy-Winning Mexican Univision host Fired Over Racist "Planet of Apes"=Michelle O

    Quote Originally Posted by rhinefire View Post
    This could have bee much worse, he could have said she looks like Hillary Clinton.

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    Re: Emmy-Winning Mexican Univision host Fired Over Racist "Planet of Apes"=Michelle O

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    See, the difference between some and I is likely that I'm not consumed by race. I can see a comment about Michelle Obama and not consider her race one bit. Others, on the other hand, must think race first and offense then becomes a reflex. I can take a joke or funny comment on face value - pun intended. But hey, if others need to dredge up every past offense and work them into today's discussion, that's their prerogative - I just won't play along.
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    Re: Emmy-Winning Mexican Univision host Fired Over Racist "Planet of Apes"=Michelle O

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    And those comments made were not needed. It is the gutter of US politics.
    But were they racist?
    This one in the OP clearly racist.
    No justification can be made for such a comment.

    racist, non racist what the **** difference does it make.

    as you pointed out, it IS the gutter, and then you want to mitigate it?

    It's ugly, mean, and dirty, a new low set by DEMOCRATS.

    own it
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    Re: Emmy-Winning Mexican Univision host Fired Over Racist "Planet of Apes"=Michelle O

    Quote Originally Posted by Carleen View Post
    I see you took your usual "nasty pill" today.

    Looked in the mirror lately?

    Which one of any of your many posts actually contributes anything to the debate?

    Been nice and all that, but ta ta....
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    Re: Emmy-Winning Mexican Univision host Fired Over Racist "Planet of Apes"=Michelle O

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Still wrong though, wouldn't you think?
    Good afternoon Rocket

    Absolutely a nasty bit of work, but then he's identified as a "fashionista", someone who makes a living out of making outlandish statements about style and fashion and being highly critical and opinionated. He was likened to Joan River's Fashion Police and if you've ever seen that, you know it's bare knuckles assault in the crudest of terms - but funny because it's so outlandish.

    And what do you think about the First Lady's office being so thin skinned and petty as to call the network to have him fired? Isn't that wrong as well?
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    Re: Emmy-Winning Mexican Univision host Fired Over Racist "Planet of Apes"=Michelle O

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    See, the difference between some and I is likely that I'm not consumed by race. I can see a comment about Michelle Obama and not consider her race one bit. Others, on the other hand, must think race first and offense then becomes a reflex. I can take a joke or funny comment on face value - pun intended. But hey, if others need to dredge up every past offense and work them into today's discussion, that's their prerogative - I just won't play along.
    In a recent film review [of an insignificant film I did not watch] the reviewer compared an actor, presumable white, to a rabid boar....as in swine, as in pig.

    I don't know if anyone would call that racist.

    My late wife could be a mean cat when assessing other women, part of the Asian culture she told me, and she said of one associate "she dresses like a monkey in heat", which we all found unabashedly hilarious as it was true. The other woman was also Asian, in fact likely from the same area of China as my wife. Would anyone find that racist before this?

    Is the comment insulting to a first lady, yes. Is it a dismissible offense, presumably so, as it crossed a line, but to me it is not racist. Not if he is commenting on her fashion style
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    Re: Emmy-Winning Mexican Univision host Fired Over Racist "Planet of Apes"=Michelle O

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    See, the difference between some and I is likely that I'm not consumed by race. I can see a comment about Michelle Obama and not consider her race one bit. Others, on the other hand, must think race first and offense then becomes a reflex. I can take a joke or funny comment on face value - pun intended. But hey, if others need to dredge up every past offense and work them into today's discussion, that's their prerogative - I just won't play along.
    I know, right?

    How can anyone think there's anything racist about saying that a black woman looks like an ape?
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    Re: Emmy-Winning Mexican Univision host Fired Over Racist "Planet of Apes"=Michelle O

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    I know, right?

    How can anyone think there's anything racist about saying that a black woman looks like an ape?
    I guess you obviously can't help but think race because when you see a black woman your mind automatically thinks black and any discussion of that woman must be a discussion about the colour of her skin. I'm not built that way - I come from a culture - although geographically close, still light years away - that doesn't obsess about race. You'll never get beyond race because you're consumed by it. Hopefully, a younger generation of Americans will be able to get beyond it, but if voices like the ones here have their way, I doubt it.
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    Re: Emmy-Winning Mexican Univision host Fired Over Racist "Planet of Apes"=Michelle O

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    I guess you obviously can't help but think race because when you see a black woman your mind automatically thinks black and any discussion of that woman must be a discussion about the colour of her skin. I'm not built that way - I come from a culture - although geographically close, still light years away - that doesn't obsess about race. You'll never get beyond race because you're consumed by it. Hopefully, a younger generation of Americans will be able to get beyond it, but if voices like the ones here have their way, I doubt it.
    Yes, one has to be consumed by race to think there's anything racist about comparing a black person to an ape.
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    Re: Emmy-Winning Mexican Univision host Fired Over Racist "Planet of Apes"=Michelle O

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Yes, one has to be consumed by race to think there's anything racist about comparing a black person to an ape.
    Glad to see you acknowledge that fact. Acknowledging and accepting the weaknesses of your views is the first step in transforming them for the better.
    "Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views." William F. Buckley Jr.

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