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    Re: 2 Officers Are Shot Outside Ferguson Police Station

    Quote Originally Posted by chromium View Post
    I think possibly the black citizens in ferguson don't want any cops period

    Disproportionate # of speeding tickets is wrong, but it's nothing compared to the anarchy that would follow if cops stayed away from those areas. Wonder how long it'd take after the first uninvestigated B&E before they started to cry for more law enforcement...
    I couldn't agree more....But the truth of the matter is that they want the cops to protect them, but not bust them when they are the criminal....I was watching "Lockdown" last night, and on there was a convict in Cincinnati who, on his bio in the beginning read, "Doesn't believe in the concept of police".... what???? Are you kidding me?
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    Re: 2 Officers Are Shot Outside Ferguson Police Station

    Quote Originally Posted by chromium View Post
    I think possibly the black citizens in ferguson don't want any cops period

    Disproportionate # of speeding tickets is wrong, but it's nothing compared to the anarchy that would follow if cops stayed away from those areas. Wonder how long it'd take after the first uninvestigated B&E before they started to cry for more law enforcement...
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    Not when they are committing a disproportionate amount.
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    Re: 2 Officers Are Shot Outside Ferguson Police Station

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    What? But isn't knowing that bit of info important?
    That's the shooter's claim. I find it unbelievable when both shots were just inches away from being deadly for both cops.

    The shooter was on facebook. His page is currently inaccessible at this time but some folks did glean some telling tidbits.

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    Re: 2 Officers Are Shot Outside Ferguson Police Station

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    That's the shooter's claim. I find it unbelievable when both shots were just inches away from being deadly for both cops.

    The shooter was on facebook. His page is currently inaccessible at this time but some folks did glean some telling tidbits.

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    The "FTP" movement. Charming.

    How come Eric Holder didn't give the country a report on them?
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    Re: 2 Officers Are Shot Outside Ferguson Police Station

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    Oh, he's ****ed either way, especially since I think he already admitted to having fired the shots.

    But it would be at the least interesting to know whether he was firing at the police in the first place, and if not, who he was trying to kill.
    He did admit it, and he claims he was aiming at someone in the crowd who he was having a "disagreement" with.

    So now that we know this, does it make a difference? Does it make his story believable?
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    Re: 2 Officers Are Shot Outside Ferguson Police Station

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    The "FTP" movement. Charming.

    How come Eric Holder didn't give the country a report on them?
    Yep, and from one of his posts it appears he was engaged in the looting in Ferguson too.

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    Re: 2 Officers Are Shot Outside Ferguson Police Station

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    Those stats you claim I cherry picked came from the blog by the black author Kevin Jackson. His lastest book, Race Pimping; The multi trillion dollar business of Liberalism.
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    He's not buying Holder's claims.
    Here is an interview with a Sheriff Clarke, a black law enforcement officer and he isn't buying Holders report on Ferguson either.

    Now if you want to accept Holder's report as the gospel that is your prerogative.
    The stats the guy pulled out are BS and it really doesn't matter if the author who did it is black or white. And there really is lots of ground between accepting it as Gospel and dismissing the entire thing because shoot the messenger. If someone believes part of the report is made up, point out which part and explain why they think it's made up or not relevant.

    As to the sheriff that appeared on Fox, I have no reason to question his integrity or honesty, but a couple of points about what he said. First, he seems like a no BS kind of sheriff. Any bets that the SUPERVISORS under that guy don't feel comfortable sending "disgusting" (his word) racist emails along to their colleagues at work and if they do, they best prepare for a world class chewing out in that guy's office? I'm sorry, but when the tone from the top is casual racism is fine, that just does matter especially in a town, the people you are paid to SERVE, is majority black.

    Second, the whole interview was no better than what right wingers are doing on this thread, which is some version of "We can all ignore the report and race issues in America because....HOLDER!!!" The sheriff says he thinks Holder believes ALL white cops are "stone cold racists." There's no evidence that's true and even IF true, not a defense of what is included in the report. It was a pretty disappointing interview to be honest. I'd bet the guy has good things to say on the subject but all he did express was a fairly transparent contempt for Holder. Nothing inherently wrong with that, but the problems with the black community and the FPD didn't start with Holder, so condemning him adds really nothing to the conversation.

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    Re: 2 Officers Are Shot Outside Ferguson Police Station

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    That's the shooter's claim. I find it unbelievable when both shots were just inches away from being deadly for both cops.
    Anything is possible, perhaps, but it does seem unbelievable that two missed shots would just coincidentally happen to hit cops. Would make him one of the unluckiest people on the planet.

    Such a shame, too..... Poor guy might have tried to kill someone, missed, and then might get 'unfairly' prosecuted for trying to kill police. Booo hooo

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    Re: 2 Officers Are Shot Outside Ferguson Police Station

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    He did admit it, and he claims he was aiming at someone in the crowd who he was having a "disagreement" with.

    So now that we know this, does it make a difference? Does it make his story believable?
    Greetings, tres borrachos.

    No. But that apparently doesn't matter to some people. There were only two expert shots to the head, aimed to kill or injure two officers, and I'd say the message was sent. It was not a "disagreement" with a third party, because the shooter was too accurate in his shots, IMO, and the "third party" would have suffered the same injuries as the policemen, if there were a "third party!" Let's dispense with the Bull****! It's not believable....

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    Re: 2 Officers Are Shot Outside Ferguson Police Station

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Greetings, tres borrachos.

    No. But that apparently doesn't matter to some people. There were only two expert shots to the head, aimed to kill or injure two officers, and I'd say the message was sent. It was not a "disagreement" with a third party, because the shooter was too accurate in his shots, IMO, and the "third party" would have suffered the same injuries as the policemen, if there were a "third party!" Let's dispense with the Bull****! It's not believable....
    The first reports I read apparently came from protesters who were there. They were saying that the shots came from 125 yards away with a pistol. If that was the case then the shooter was either the unluckiest person in the world who "accidentally" shot the cops or he was a better shot than anyone on the planet.

    I saw the video and heard the shots. The gunman must have been pretty close. I'd guess he was no more than the other side of the street and was probably on a car. The idea that it was anything other than attempted murder is conspiracy fodder.

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