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    Re: 2 Officers Are Shot Outside Ferguson Police Station

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Shouldn't that read; Carries the possibility of a life sentence?
    Not from what I read Excon, if convicted, all counts carry a life sentence. If you have something else to disprove that, please post it.

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    Re: 2 Officers Are Shot Outside Ferguson Police Station

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    Not from what I read Excon, if convicted, all counts carry a life sentence. If you have something else to disprove that, please post it.
    I asked a question to your claim.
    Your claim is the one that needs to be backed up with the law.

    If you don't want to back up what you claim, just say so.
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    Re: 2 Officers Are Shot Outside Ferguson Police Station

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    I asked a question to your claim.
    Your claim is the one that needs to be backed up with the law.

    If you don't want to back up what you claim, just say so.
    I'm not going to get in a pissing contest with you over this. The laws in the State of Missouri for everything violation this man has been charged with comes with a life sentence. Have a nice day.

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    Re: 2 Officers Are Shot Outside Ferguson Police Station

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    I'm not going to get in a pissing contest with you over this. The laws in the State of Missouri for everything violation this man has been charged with comes with a life sentence. Have a nice day.
    All you are saying is that you do not want to back up what you asserted.

    Now if someone comes along and shows you that the law says it only carries only a possibility of life, then what?
    Are you going to admit you were wrong?
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    Re: 2 Officers Are Shot Outside Ferguson Police Station

    This person's lawyer is well aware of how important intent--in particular specific intent--is in a case like this. And there are subtle ways to coach your client to say he was shooting at something else--a building, or whatever--and just happened to hit those two cops by accident. Attempted murder requires the same specific intent as murder--meaning the prosecution has to prove that when you acted, you not only intended the bad act, but that you also intended the result of that bad act. So if our Jeffrey only intended to fire a rifle recklessly, he could not be guilty of attempted murder. Obviously attempted murder of a police officer--in fact two of them--presents the biggest problem for his lawyer, and I think that explains how this fairy story of not meaning to hit them has come about.

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    Re: 2 Officers Are Shot Outside Ferguson Police Station

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    All you are saying is that you do not want to back up what you asserted.

    Now if someone comes along and shows you that the law says it only carries only a possibility of life, then what?
    Are you going to admit you were wrong?
    Alright Excon, I'll play your little game. " potential" of life". Well all of the several charges he is facing have that same "potential". Have a nice evening. Je-----sus.
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    Re: 2 Officers Are Shot Outside Ferguson Police Station

    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    This person's lawyer is well aware of how important intent--in particular specific intent--is in a case like this. And there are subtle ways to coach your client to say he was shooting at something else--a building, or whatever--and just happened to hit those two cops by accident. Attempted murder requires the same specific intent as murder--meaning the prosecution has to prove that when you acted, you not only intended the bad act, but that you also intended the result of that bad act. So if our Jeffrey only intended to fire a rifle recklessly, he could not be guilty of attempted murder. Obviously attempted murder of a police officer--in fact two of them--presents the biggest problem for his lawyer, and I think that explains how this fairy story of not meaning to hit them has come about.
    He's such a bad shot he hit two cops with both shots he took. Yeah, I can see a lawyer trying to sell that.

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    Re: 2 Officers Are Shot Outside Ferguson Police Station

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    He's such a bad shot he hit two cops with both shots he took. Yeah, I can see a lawyer trying to sell that.
    Has the gun he used in the incident been stolen? No word on that one, but the twenty year old did indeed use the gun. he wasn't from Ferguson but St Louis and anyone following this story knows how much that bears to this case.

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    Re: 2 Officers Are Shot Outside Ferguson Police Station

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    Doesn't matter. Every friggin charge against him carries a life sentence. He can claim anything he wants, but two officers were struck. One still has the bullet logged next to his ear and sounds like he has lost an eye and maybe the hearing out of the ear. You can believe whatever you wish. I find it rather unbelievable that he wasn't directing those shots directly at police.
    Oh, he's ****ed either way, especially since I think he already admitted to having fired the shots.

    But it would be at the least interesting to know whether he was firing at the police in the first place, and if not, who he was trying to kill.
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    Re: 2 Officers Are Shot Outside Ferguson Police Station

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    Oh, he's ****ed either way, especially since I think he already admitted to having fired the shots.

    But it would be at the least interesting to know whether he was firing at the police in the first place, and if not, who he was trying to kill.
    I don't have any misgivings or concerns who Williams was aiming at. Cheers!

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