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    Re: 2 Officers Are Shot Outside Ferguson Police Station

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    I'm not looking to do anything for Ferguson. I'm having the same discussion on here that you are. And commenting on the AG's report, considering he works for us and we have a right to debate and critique his work.

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    If the vermin are gone, I guess the citizens of Ferguson will find out soon enough. And if they are, then we don't have to hear about Ferguson anymore.
    The JD's report has recommendations that can't possibly have been all implemented yet. But once they have, there'll be a shiny new FPD ready to get to work and serve the interests of the law, the constitution, the citizens of Ferguson and be a model for emulation. Then perhaps we'll be hearing good things about Ferguson.
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    Re: 2 Officers Are Shot Outside Ferguson Police Station

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    This is part of the problem. The constant focus on instances of racism breed resentment on once side and tin foil hat nuttiness on the other.
    I can understand the shrug of racism by someone who likely hasn't ever fell prey to it.
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    Re: 2 Officers Are Shot Outside Ferguson Police Station

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    I can understand the shrug of racism by someone who likely hasn't ever fell prey to it.
    I'm not shrugging anything off. I'm simply noting that not everything that happens is a racial issue and not every racial issue is due to racism.

    Let's say that you've got a Swedish neighborhood where 80% of the residents are blond haired, blue eyed and pasty white. This neighborhood has a serious crime problem where pedestrians are constantly pelted by tiny meatballs drenched in gravy. You're the desk sergeant and the phone rings for the 90th time that week with another complaint about about a meatball assault. You mutter under your breath "Damned Swedes!" as you dispatch a patrol. That doesn't mean that you dislike Swedish people. All it means is that you're fed up with the problem of assault in the neighborhood which tends to be perpetrated by Swedes. Later that day, in the course of venting your frustration, you send your buddy an email showing a chubby blond guy with a big mustache and a chef hat flattened under a giant gravy coated meatball. You're still not a racist and you still don't hate Swedes. You're just venting frustration. This is pretty typical human behavior and every culture does it to some extent or another.

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    Re: 2 Officers Are Shot Outside Ferguson Police Station

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    I'm not shrugging anything off. I'm simply noting that not everything that happens is a racial issue and not every racial issue is due to racism.

    Let's say that you've got a Swedish neighborhood where 80% of the residents are blond haired, blue eyed and pasty white. This neighborhood has a serious crime problem where pedestrians are constantly pelted by tiny meatballs drenched in gravy. You're the desk sergeant and the phone rings for the 90th time that week with another complaint about about a meatball assault. You mutter under your breath "Damned Swedes!" as you dispatch a patrol. That doesn't mean that you dislike Swedish people. All it means is that you're fed up with the problem of assault in the neighborhood which tends to be perpetrated by Swedes. Later that day, in the course of venting your frustration, you send your buddy an email showing a chubby blond guy with a big mustache and a chef hat flattened under a giant gravy coated meatball. You're still not a racist and you still don't hate Swedes. You're just venting frustration. This is pretty typical human behavior and every culture does it to some extent or another.
    OMG. I just wrecked my keyboard spitting water all over it. Tiny meatballs drenched in gravy?
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    Re: 2 Officers Are Shot Outside Ferguson Police Station

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    I'm not shrugging anything off. I'm simply noting that not everything that happens is a racial issue and not every racial issue is due to racism.

    Let's say that you've got a Swedish neighborhood where 80% of the residents are blond haired, blue eyed and pasty white. This neighborhood has a serious crime problem where pedestrians are constantly pelted by tiny meatballs drenched in gravy. You're the desk sergeant and the phone rings for the 90th time that week with another complaint about about a meatball assault. You mutter under your breath "Damned Swedes!" as you dispatch a patrol. That doesn't mean that you dislike Swedish people. All it means is that you're fed up with the problem of assault in the neighborhood which tends to be perpetrated by Swedes. Later that day, in the course of venting your frustration, you send your buddy an email showing a chubby blond guy with a big mustache and a chef hat flattened under a giant gravy coated meatball. You're still not a racist and you still don't hate Swedes. You're just venting frustration. This is pretty typical human behavior and every culture does it to some extent or another.
    racism!
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    Re: 2 Officers Are Shot Outside Ferguson Police Station

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    I'm not shrugging anything off. I'm simply noting that not everything that happens is a racial issue and not every racial issue is due to racism.

    Let's say that you've got a Swedish neighborhood where 80% of the residents are blond haired, blue eyed and pasty white. This neighborhood has a serious crime problem where pedestrians are constantly pelted by tiny meatballs drenched in gravy. You're the desk sergeant and the phone rings for the 90th time that week with another complaint about about a meatball assault. You mutter under your breath "Damned Swedes!" as you dispatch a patrol. That doesn't mean that you dislike Swedish people. All it means is that you're fed up with the problem of assault in the neighborhood which tends to be perpetrated by Swedes. Later that day, in the course of venting your frustration, you send your buddy an email showing a chubby blond guy with a big mustache and a chef hat flattened under a giant gravy coated meatball. You're still not a racist and you still don't hate Swedes. You're just venting frustration. This is pretty typical human behavior and every culture does it to some extent or another.
    To the bolded. True, but in the context of Ferguson, and the JD's report that confirms racist driven corruption and abuse, it's not race baiting to point it out and it's not acceptable to shrug it off. Let the city council, city manager and mayor see to it that the reports recommendations are followed, and we should hear no more about it.
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    Re: 2 Officers Are Shot Outside Ferguson Police Station

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    OMG. I just wrecked my keyboard spitting water all over it. Tiny meatballs drenched in gravy?
    It's dinner time. but Luther's post made a great point.

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    Re: 2 Officers Are Shot Outside Ferguson Police Station

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    racism!
    Let's have some Swedish meatballs!
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    Re: 2 Officers Are Shot Outside Ferguson Police Station

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    The JD's report has recommendations that can't possibly have been all implemented yet. But once they have, there'll be a shiny new FPD ready to get to work and serve the interests of the law, the constitution, the citizens of Ferguson and be a model for emulation. Then perhaps we'll be hearing good things about Ferguson.
    Maybe. Time will tell. I'm anxious to hear what the citizens are supposed to be doing to better the community themselves. I don't believe all of the problems in that city were the result of the white police force and the mayor/city council people.
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    Re: 2 Officers Are Shot Outside Ferguson Police Station

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    It's dinner time. but Luther's post made a great point.
    It did make a great point, and there's nothing better than a great point that also very clever analogies in it!
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