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    Re: 2 Officers Are Shot Outside Ferguson Police Station

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    Goooooood Morning F&L

    Well for starters, go back to the report in the way they worded covering the stops made on traffic violations. Sounds bad until you discover that the State of Missouri allows up to 30% of revenue from traffic tickets. Ferguson doesn't come close but currently several predominately black cities in Missouri who have black mayors are in violation of state law for over ticketing. The stats that really blow one away are that of Pine Lawn.....who has a black mayor/city council.

    Pine Lawn Police Department

    Disparity Index against Whites – 19.32

    1.42% of population is White

    27.5 % of the traffic stops are White

    Pine Lawn’s Director of Public Safety (Police Chief) and their City Prosecutor “moonlights” as the Attorney for Michael Brown’s family.

    I looked up the distance between Pine Lawn and Ferguson Missouri, the distance is 4.7 miles.
    It seems that Whites are less prone to complain about racism.

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    Re: 2 Officers Are Shot Outside Ferguson Police Station

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    It seems that Whites are less prone to complain about racism.
    To find out that Pine Lawn is not even five miles away with a record of targeting whites wasn't included in Holder's report to give an accurate account of racial bias in the area, speaks volumes.

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    Re: 2 Officers Are Shot Outside Ferguson Police Station

    Quote Originally Posted by 1750Texan View Post
    You to are conflating the demonstration with the attempted murder of a peace officer. The protesters did not shoot at the cops...a person or persons did.

    The Ferguson Police are investigating and seeking a person or persons involved....not a protest.

    edit: ...Not Holder not race baiters. Remember personal responsibility? The person on persons that shot the police officers is responsible.
    You have no way of knowing who the shooters are so you cannot say they were not part of the protest.

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    Re: 2 Officers Are Shot Outside Ferguson Police Station

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    Goooooood Morning F&L

    Well for starters, go back to the report in the way they worded covering the stops made on traffic violations. Sounds bad until you discover that the State of Missouri allows up to 30% of revenue from traffic tickets. Ferguson doesn't come close but currently several predominately black cities in Missouri who have black mayors are in violation of state law for over ticketing. The stats that really blow one away are that of Pine Lawn.....who has a black mayor/city council.

    Pine Lawn Police Department

    Disparity Index against Whites – 19.32

    1.42% of population is White

    27.5 % of the traffic stops are White

    Pine Lawn’s Director of Public Safety (Police Chief) and their City Prosecutor “moonlights” as the Attorney for Michael Brown’s family.

    I looked up the distance between Pine Lawn and Ferguson Missouri, the distance is 4.7 miles.
    Does this mean that the problems at FPD shouldn't be fixed. Or does it mean that the problems at FPD should be fixed, and then we should move on to Pine Lawn?
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    Re: 2 Officers Are Shot Outside Ferguson Police Station

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Does this mean that the problems at FPD shouldn't be fixed. Or does it mean that the problems at FPD should be fixed, and then we should move on to Pine Lawn?
    Nothing is going to get "fixed" until political activists are no longer running the DOJ.

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    Re: 2 Officers Are Shot Outside Ferguson Police Station

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    I'm certainly not surprised. It was inevitable due to the race baiting by Holder. He has done a bang up job painting every white cop a racist. It is sickening to watch it all unfold. From the friggin race ambulance chaser Al Sharpton to Obama to Holden along with every leftist special interest group that have ratcheted up the frenzy. I hope there is a special place in Hell for people like that.
    To be fair, you have to give the media some of the credit. I mean every time there is a shooting of a black suspect by a white cop it is all over the news so these little brains can say "well there is another one over there".

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    Re: 2 Officers Are Shot Outside Ferguson Police Station

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    To find out that Pine Lawn is not even five miles away with a record of targeting whites wasn't included in Holder's report to give an accurate account of racial bias in the area, speaks volumes.
    Whites will remain silent while carefully containing their thoughts and experiences.

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    Re: 2 Officers Are Shot Outside Ferguson Police Station

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    To be fair, you have to give the media some of the credit. I mean every time there is a shooting of a black suspect by a white cop it is all over the news so these little brains can say "well there is another one over there".
    Oh absolutely!

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    Re: 2 Officers Are Shot Outside Ferguson Police Station

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    Goooooood Morning F&L

    Well for starters, go back to the report in the way they worded covering the stops made on traffic violations. Sounds bad until you discover that the State of Missouri allows up to 30% of revenue from traffic tickets. Ferguson doesn't come close but currently several predominately black cities in Missouri who have black mayors are in violation of state law for over ticketing. The stats that really blow one away are that of Pine Lawn.....who has a black mayor/city council.

    Pine Lawn Police Department

    Disparity Index against Whites – 19.32

    1.42% of population is White

    27.5 % of the traffic stops are White

    Pine Lawn’s Director of Public Safety (Police Chief) and their City Prosecutor “moonlights” as the Attorney for Michael Brown’s family.

    I looked up the distance between Pine Lawn and Ferguson Missouri, the distance is 4.7 miles.
    And it is a fine morning, thank you. It would be better if we were not dealing with the attempted assassinations of two police officers, but life is as they say...

    A blogger cherry picking does not undermine anything for me. Those who will never believe this report will though.

    It is a couple of lines in a 102 page report on a six month study. In the overall, when you have city councilors pressing police for more revenue, when that revenue is higher than normal to begin with and is coming from the poorest people, there is a problem. A problem that was allowed to fester and became a riot and is now a war, with snipers.

    I want this on the record again....I do not give ONE fiddler's **** who is to blame for what Ferguson has become. I do care that it doesn't look like anything is going to get fixed.

    But here is a sample of finding[s] kind of illustrating what was the situation in Ferguson.............







    Ferguson Law Enforcement Practices Disproportionately Harm Ferguson’s African-American Residents and Are Driven in Part by Racial Bias Ferguson’s police and municipal court practices disproportionately harm African Americans

    Further, our investigation found substantial evidence that this harm stems in part from intentional discrimination in violation of the Constitution. African Americans experience disparate impact in nearly every aspect of Ferguson’s law enforcement system. Despite making up 67% of the population, African Americans accounted for 85% of FPD’s traffic stops, 90% of FPD’s citations, and 93% of FPD’s arrests from 2012 to 2014. Other statistical disparities, set forth in detail below, show that in Ferguson:


    African Americans are 2.07 times more likely to be searched during a vehicular stop but are 26% less likely to have contraband found on them during a search. They are 2.00 times more likely to receive a citation and 2.37 times more likely to be arrested following a vehicular stop.


    African Americans have force used against them at disproportionately high rates, accounting for 88% of all cases from 2010 to August 2014 in which an FPD officer reported using force. In all 14 uses of force involving a canine bite for which we have information about the race of the person bitten, the person was African American.


    African Americans are more likely to receive multiple citations during a single incident, receiving four or more citations on 73 occasions between October 2012 and July 2014, whereas non-African Americans received four or more citations only twice during that period.


    African Americans account for 95% of Manner of Walking charges; 94% of all Fail to Comply charges; 92% of all Resisting Arrest charges; 92% of all Peace Disturbance charges; and 89% of all Failure to Obey charges.



    African Americans are 68% less likely than others to have their cases dismissed by the Municipal Judge, and in 2013 African Americans accounted for 92% of cases in which an arrest warrant was issued.

    That report is too in depth and overwhelming to dismiss based on a blogger's interpretation of the figures.
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    Re: 2 Officers Are Shot Outside Ferguson Police Station

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    It seems that Whites are less prone to complain about racism.
    I suppose you think that's profound. It's certainly a racist comment. Perhaps if they had the recent history of slavery and oppression, white Americans would be more sensitive to it as well.
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