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    Re: 2 Officers Are Shot Outside Ferguson Police Station

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    LOL, another person who hasn't read any of the report.

    FWIW, one big problem was those emails were sent by supervisors, the bosses, and the environment was such that supervisors felt comfortable sending, and others forwarding, those emails without any fear of negative repercussions, and none occurred. Not even the most benign - "Hey Bob, let's keep the work email clean OK."
    again...7 emails in 7 days (that is what was cited). Are those people still there? And is that 'systemic racism'?

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    Re: 2 Officers Are Shot Outside Ferguson Police Station

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    The reason we are where we are at today, is directly related to the DOJ and every attorney hired by the DOJ under the civil rights division is a leftist or activist. News organizations had to sue the DOJ through FOIA to get that information. And we all know they are currently serving under Perez who in itself is alarming as he has done a bang up job of politicizing the civil rights division. But I'll add that to my compilation.

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    Re: 2 Officers Are Shot Outside Ferguson Police Station

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    I think what Sharpton, Holder and Obama did to this town is just despicable. This thug tries to kill a cop, they all line up against the cop. Obama even sent a delegation to the criminal piece of garbage's funeral. The cop, who did his job and did it well, ends up having to leave the force because of these morons. Unless I missed it, the cop has received no support, no apology, no nothin' from those three stooges.

    Riots broke out, innocent people's lives were destroyed, and now two cops have been shop. All because these pukes decided they could make political hay off the racial tensions that they helped fan.
    I'll just quote liveonramen: "There's been multiple cases of black men being killed in various cities that were really unarmed and not threatening a police officer...since the Michael Brown shooting. Why do you think Ferguson has erupted like it has? The Michael Brown incident is an example of a flame setting of a tinderbox."

    Seriously, if you can't recognize that what happened after the Brown shooting was only the spark, then you've entirely missed the real point of all the protests. It's not as if the protesters didn't say early on WHY the reaction was so explosive. I heard and read a number of interviews with those in the community and the story was always the same - the shooting was merely the last straw. To be fair, the national media is lazy and doesn't do nuance very well because it's all got to fit into a sound bite of 90 seconds or so, and so they focused almost entirely on the shooting, but the people doing actual reporting from that area had the story right long ago, and nothing in the report should be a surprise to any of them.

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    Re: 2 Officers Are Shot Outside Ferguson Police Station

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    again...7 emails in 7 days (that is what was cited). Are those people still there? And is that 'systemic racism'?
    Again....you clearly didn't read the report. A lot more than that was cited, much of it clearly FAR worse than the bosses setting a nice tone from the top by sending around racist emails for giggles.

    If you're actually interested, take a few minutes and at least skim it. Then a lot of this discussion will begin to make sense if you have anything like an open mind and any concern at all about police misconduct.

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    Re: 2 Officers Are Shot Outside Ferguson Police Station

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Are you aware of how many times the Bush administration was sued under FOIA?
    If you think that the JD's report is corrupt. There's nothing to discuss.
    It's just more of the GOP technique of shooting the messenger wen backed into a corner.
    It's hard for them to defend a city that collects an average of $600 per person per year from police/county fines to pay for their departments.

    Notice that technique today as McCain says the Senate was too hasty with the Cotton letter so as to get out of town before a snowstorm.
    What they did was take the eyes off of what they thought was the Hillary prize--her emails .
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    Re: 2 Officers Are Shot Outside Ferguson Police Station

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Are you aware of how many times the Bush administration was sued under FOIA? If you think that the JD's report is corrupt. There's nothing to discuss.
    That's nice, but you are aware that Holder is the only sitting member of the President's cabinet in all our history to be held in CRIMINAL contempt by congress. The news that he and his department are corrupt broke long enough ago that you have no excuse for defending them or buying their bull****.

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    Re: 2 Officers Are Shot Outside Ferguson Police Station

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    Again....you clearly didn't read the report. A lot more than that was cited, much of it clearly FAR worse than the bosses setting a nice tone from the top by sending around racist emails for giggles.

    If you're actually interested, take a few minutes and at least skim it. Then a lot of this discussion will begin to make sense if you have anything like an open mind and any concern at all about police misconduct.
    Seeing the word 'many' in a report does nothing to quantify a statement that racism is prevalent. Juts how many were sent? Who sent them? Are they still employed? No doubt...the 7 emails cited in seven years were racist and should have resulted in at least a reprimand...but you need more to go on than several, and many.

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    Re: 2 Officers Are Shot Outside Ferguson Police Station

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    The other thing, and this isn't directed at anyone in particular, is it's just bizarre that the right wing has a general distrust for the government, and is I assume opposed to what would approach a police state. But the report on Ferguson is a picture of the worst kind of government abuse against its citizens, and a great many of the conservatives here are blaming the messenger instead of for once joining with liberals in condemning government abuse of power. It really is something that should unite all sides - there is no defense of it. I have to assume, and hope, that those making light of the report haven't read any of it. If you can read it and find any reason for the black community to trust the police in that town, I will be amazed.
    This a million times. The police report shouldn't be a partisan issue. The shooting is tragic, and everyone is obviously incredibly relieved that it didn't turn out to be fatal, but the driving force behind this is not the publishing of a report, or even the actions of one stupid man, it is a response to continued abuse of power by the state. No policeman should ever be shot, but no community should not be able to trust their police.

    The 2nd amendment proposes the arming of the populace in order to prevent the state from abusing its power. Well, this situation is what the exercision of that right looks like in this day and age. Armed citizens rebelling against state abuse. Government tyranny is not a civil war between standing armies, military vs militia, it is the abjection of our citizens by representatives of the state. This is the very reason why many on the right have fought so hard to keep firearms, and it seems that many of them don't even recognize it.
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    Re: 2 Officers Are Shot Outside Ferguson Police Station

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    That's nice, but you are aware that Holder is the only sitting member of the President's cabinet in all our history to be held in CRIMINAL contempt by congress. The news that he and his department are corrupt broke long enough ago that you have no excuse for defending them or buying their bull****.
    Do you realize that the justice department employs 125,000 people. Many of whom were there before Holder arrived, and who will be there after he departs. Do you have any idea how many people were actively involved in this investigation, and whether or not any of them had met Holder prior to this assignment. Are you suggesting the documented crimes in this report are fabrications. That the JD employees fabricated racist e-mails, that the documented violations of the first, fourth and fourteenth amendments are also fabrications. That the documented witness accounts were created by justice department employees. Is that where clownboy stands??
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    Re: 2 Officers Are Shot Outside Ferguson Police Station

    A con opinion piece in a con newspaper upping the ante on racism in your posts to me, as you originally accused Holder of saying my brothers were racists.

    I'm not a republican
    You consistently post as a rightist GOP--common on DP.
    I call you phony Libertarian RIPOs--Republicans In Posting Only

    you do yourself a disservice when you suggest I am.
    You accused my brothers of being racist.
    We are Sons of the American Legion and my Dad was 22 years in the Air Force--8 more years in Civil Service.
    You did your own Air Force service a disservice by accusing us of being racists--extension to my Dad.

    You would have to ask a republican.
    I did ask a GOP; I asked YOU--you were dishonest and denied who you were.
    You have now entered the BIL Zone .
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