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    Re: 2 Officers Are Shot Outside Ferguson Police Station

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    She doesn't agree with these being deaths, because factually they aren't. However, she agrees that this is Holder's fault... which somehow will not be blaming Holder for this. The acrobatics are real.
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    Re: 2 Officers Are Shot Outside Ferguson Police Station

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    " of selected complaints of discrimination by their recipients."

    So factually, the DoJ doesn't monitor State or local police departments unless a.) there is a complaint filed and b.) the complaint is selected by the DoJ.
    Wrong.

    The DoJ does more than just respond to complaints

    Civil Rights Requirements

    All State Administering Agencies (SAAs) have a responsibility to monitor their subrecipients to ensure that the subrecipients are complying with the federal civil rights laws that are applicable to recipients of federal financial assistance. In accordance with 28 C.F.R. 42.105(d)(2), 42.504(a), 42.725, and 54.115, SAAs must establish and implement written Methods of Administration for ensuring their subrecipients' compliance with the prohibition against race, color, and national origin discrimination contained in Title VI of the Civil Rights Act (Title VI) of 1964, as amended, 42 U.S.C. 2000d, and the Department of Justice (DOJ) regulations at 28 C.F.R. pt. 42, subpt. C; the prohibition against disability discrimination contained in Section 504 of the Rehabilitation Act (Section 504) of 1973, as amended, 29 U.S.C. 794, and the DOJ regulations at 28 C.F.R. pt. 42, subpt. G; the prohibition against age discrimination contained in the Age Discrimination Act (Age Act) of 1975, as amended, 42 U.S.C. 6102, and the DOJ regulations at 28 C.F.R. pt. 42, subpt. I; and the prohibition against sex discrimination in education programs contained in Title IX of the Education Amendments (Title IX) of 1972, as amended, 20 U.S.C. 1681, and the DOJ regulations at 28 C.F.R. pt. 54. These Methods of Administration are the reasonable assurance that SAAs provide to the DOJ that they are ensuring the civil rights compliance of their subrecipients.
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    Re: Two Officers Are Shot Outside Ferguson Police Station

    There are still idiots running around Ferguson yelling " hands up dont shoot ", and most likely the idiot that shot these Police Officers is one of them.

    All of this, the riots, the looting, the attacks on innocent people were spun off from a HUGE LIE perpetuated by the Media and " Civil Rights " leaders and a few low life Politicians.

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    Re: 2 Officers Are Shot Outside Ferguson Police Station

    Quote Originally Posted by 1750Texan View Post
    The protest are irrelevant to the shooting.

    The shooter used the protest as a cover for anonymity. You have no clue as to the shooters deranged motive[s]. You are just conjecturing.
    And you aren't?
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    Re: 2 Officers Are Shot Outside Ferguson Police Station

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Update: Good news both Officers released from the Hospital. 36 mins ago.


    (Reuters) - The two police officers who were shot in Ferguson, Missouri, during protests have been released from the hospital, St. Louis County Police Department spokesman Brian Schellman told Reuters on Thursday.....snip~


    Police shot in Ferguson, Missouri, released from hospital


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    Re: 2 Officers Are Shot Outside Ferguson Police Station

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    She doesn't agree with these being deaths, because factually they aren't. However, she agrees that this is Holder's fault... which somehow will not be blaming Holder for this. The acrobatics are real.
    And predictable

    At some point, she will accuse someone of getting emotional (or obssessing), or claim she doesn't care about something, and if someone other than the poster she was responding to responds to one of her posts, she will complain because she didn't ask for their opinion.
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    Re: 2 Officers Are Shot Outside Ferguson Police Station

    Quote Originally Posted by Declan View Post
    How much do you think the NRA should take the blame? This is, after all, what they have defended guns with for years--people rising up against government.
    No blame at all, as much as you with for it.

    Based upon your logic:

    Blame auto makers for crashes where people are killed; Blame spirit manufacturers for OMVI deaths, ad nauseum.

    Time to stop the whining and crying and understand the real world with an adult viewpoint.

    Show me one communique where the NRA advocated taking up arms up against the government.
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    Re: 2 Officers Are Shot Outside Ferguson Police Station

    I didn't realize today was opposite day! Two officers are shot -- which is horrible, unacceptable, and tragic -- after largely peaceful protests in Ferguson. So a few criminals try to murder two police officers and now we have conservatives blaming... Eric Holder? Seriously? And here, as a liberal, I always point out that I don't blame any high profile conservative or the NRA or any political wing when some crazy guy decides he's going to spill the blood of tyranny or some tripe like that. I guess the NRA's new motto should be "guns don't kill people, factual DoJ reports do!" I guess personal responsibility is no longer a primary concern for those of you on the right.

    Also, a lot of liberals who do blame Republicans and the NRA for inciting violence are not playing those cards today. I am a deeply flawed human being, but at least I'm consistent, and let me tell you: it's not that hard.
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    Re: 2 Officers Are Shot Outside Ferguson Police Station

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Just curious, are any of the usual cop bashers in this thread paying lip service about how they're broken up or bothered by this,
    because that would be pretty funny.
    The lawyer for the Brown family condemned the police shootings in no uncertain terms.
    The parents of Brown have expressed their grief to the families of the two policemen.

    There's no excuse for alcohol, champagne, being brought to this protest as they celebrated the Police Chief resigning.
    An excess of alcohol is the ruination of mankind.

    As for two other recent examples, look at the Secret Service high-ranking officials who got drunk and drove into the White House barrier.

    And I do buy into the well-crafted letter by one of the Oklahoma University students, blaming alcohol for letting his guard down.
    My ****-ups in college based on alcohol weren't racist-related, but I've had to live with them all my life.
    Just as these ****-ups will live with these students all their lives.

    We all know that alcohol is the number one gateway drug.
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    Re: 2 Officers Are Shot Outside Ferguson Police Station

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    First they announced that Wilson was off the hook, which probably pissed off some people. Then they immediate announced the report results of systematic racism in the police department...............that was irresponsible. He should have known the risk of doing that.
    That makes about as much sense as blaming the gun (readily available firearms being the "means" and Holder's report being the "motive").

    At the end of the day two criminals are to blame, nobody, and nothing, else.

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