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    Re: Putin awards medal to chief suspect in Litvinenko murder

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    LOL...who is playing imperialist? USA or Russia?
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    American imperialism is in the blood today.
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    What are you doing about the Palestine land grab?
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    History shows both US and Russia are imperialists. It's like "the pot calling the kettle black".
    Just so I'm sure I'm understanding this correctly: Putin has one of his political opponents murdered in cold blood, then gives a medal to the killer, and the only thing you talk about in this thread is "American imperialism"?

    Wtf is the matter with you? Why would you continue to try to derail the thread over something completely and totally unrelated? I'm not a fan of America's imperialist policies either, but your hate seems to go deep enough to drag it into discussions about murder.
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    Re: Putin awards medal to chief suspect in Litvinenko murder

    Quote Originally Posted by blarg View Post
    no 1 has touched any of Palestine around Russia don't be silly

    not a fan of Israeli settlements in Palestine myself but at least im not defined other country's doing similar ****

    all you want to do is bash America in this case why?
    I bash for the right reasons and applies to all countries.

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    Re: Putin awards medal to chief suspect in Litvinenko murder

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    Just so I'm sure I'm understanding this correctly: Putin has one of his political opponents murdered in cold blood, then gives a medal to the killer, and the only thing you talk about in this thread is "American imperialism"?

    Wtf is the matter with you? Why would you continue to try to derail the thread over something completely and totally unrelated? I'm not a fan of America's imperialist policies either, but your hate seems to go deep enough to drag it into discussions about murder.
    The OP mentioned Russian Imperialist Expansionism. USA has similar ambitions using economic threats.

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    Re: Putin awards medal to chief suspect in Litvinenko murder

    Quote Originally Posted by RDS View Post
    LOL...who is playing imperialist? USA or Russia?
    so the you knew all along Russia

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    Re: Putin awards medal to chief suspect in Litvinenko murder

    Quote Originally Posted by RDS View Post
    The OP mentioned Russian Imperialist Expansionism. USA has similar ambitions using economic threats.
    That wasn't even a major point within the OP, and America was never mentioned. You're just here to spew anti-American rhetoric without addressing the topic. I have no problem criticizing American foreign policy, but when you try to insert it into threads about presidents murdering political dissidents, you're being incredibly dishonest and you're derailing the thread on purpose.
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    I've got to say that it is shadenfreudalicious to see the rich and famous fucquewads on the coast suffering from the fires.

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    Re: Putin awards medal to chief suspect in Litvinenko murder

    Quote Originally Posted by face, your View Post
    The US hasn't annexed territory for nearly a century; furthermore, this is how things were done by powerful nations during the colonial era, but now we have a little thing called the UN Charter and the Nuremberg Principles which prohibit aggressive wars of conquest and have since WW2, it's called international law and Putin overtly violated it with the annexation of the Crimea.
    I could give a **** about international law when the vast majority (well over 80%) of a region vote to leave their country. Canada allows it's provinces to leave with only a referendum vote of about 65%...the referendum in the Crimea was over 80% to join Russia.

    And Putin was smart to deploy his troops as he did...and I guarantee you it saved lives since he did not allow Ukraine to fight for the land - as it is doing in the Donetsk region. The Ukraine is willing to kill it's own citizens rather then let them leave even when the vast majority of that region's citizen's vote to leave (like they also did in the Donetsk region).

    Putin is a pig. But the Kiev government is at least as bad in this case and far, far more stupid. They illegally overthrew a government that was legally elected and all those knuckle heads had to do was wait a few months for the next scheduled elections to throw the guy out. But no, these idiots could not wait and look what the result is...Ukraine is a mess.


    And America are WAY worse then Russia in terms of killing people. They have killed thousands of innocent civilians over the last 12 years. Overthrown regimes whenever they felt like it. Supported horrible regimes like the one in Saudi Arabia (which beheads FAR more people then ISIS). They commit technical acts of war by bombing countries with drone strikes. They detain innocent people for years without charge. Sure, Russia has done wrong. But compared to them, America hais done WAY worse.


    And save your answer, I have NO respect for you on this subject and could care less what your closed minded response is.

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    Re: Putin awards medal to chief suspect in Litvinenko murder

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    That wasn't even a major point within the OP, and America was never mentioned. You're just here to spew anti-American rhetoric without addressing the topic. I have no problem criticizing American foreign policy, but when you try to insert it into threads about presidents murdering political dissidents, you're being incredibly dishonest and you're derailing the thread on purpose.
    The point about presidents murdering political dissidents was already addressed by me.

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    Re: Putin awards medal to chief suspect in Litvinenko murder

    Quote Originally Posted by face, your View Post
    The US hasn't annexed territory for nearly a century; furthermore, this is how things were done by powerful nations during the colonial era, but now we have a little thing called the UN Charter and the Nuremberg Principles which prohibit aggressive wars of conquest and have since WW2, it's called international law and Putin overtly violated it with the annexation of the Crimea.
    Which superpower has violated the UN Charter?
    “The use of force is lawful only when in exercise of self-defense in accordance with Article 51 of the United Nations Charter and/or when the Security Council approves such action. That is the firm principle of the United Nations,”

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    Re: Putin awards medal to chief suspect in Litvinenko murder

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    Putin awards medal to chief suspect in Litvinenko murder
    Putin himself received the award when he was a KGB Colonel.

    Andrei Lugovoi was an agent of both the KGB and the FSB. He is one of two wanted suspects in the polonium-poisoning murder of Alexander Litvinenko in London in 2006. Russia has refused to extradite Lugovoi or to try him in a Russian court. Lugovoi is currently a deputy in the Russian lower house of parliament and and a member of the Liberal Democratic Party of Russia which is headed by Vladimir Zhirinovsky ... an obnoxious and controversial Russian uber-nationalist.


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    Re: Putin awards medal to chief suspect in Litvinenko murder

    Quote Originally Posted by RDS View Post
    History shows both US and Russia are imperialists. It's like "the pot calling the kettle black".
    I really hate having to repeat myself, going back to 1898 for your example proves nothing about today.
    Last edited by face, your; 03-12-15 at 03:28 PM.

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