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    Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership [W:251]

    Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership - Bloomberg Politics

    President Obama: "It's somewhat ironic seeing some members of Congress wanting to make common cause with the hardliners in Iran..... It's an unlikely coalition."

    Interesting. Seems to me, the President distorts the issue for political gain and is subtly trying to claim that Republicans are fraternizing with the enemy or perhaps even treasonous. And yet no reaction or condemnation from Democrats or their friends in the media. Rudy Guilliani states that he believes that President Obama doesn't love his country and all hell breaks lose, the full force of the Democrat party and their media puppets attacking with all force. But when the shoe is on the other foot, again the attack is on the Republican party and the Democrat media protects their saviour and master.

    Interesting. Also, isn't President Obama trying to 'make common cause with the hardliners in Iran" through the deal negotiations he's involved in?
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    Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

    There was just another post similar to this posted.

    I'll summarize what I posted in that thread: Obama has gone out of his way to thumb his nose at Congress and Republicans in general. "I won" and "I have a pen and phone" are just a sample of those astoundingly arrogant statements. Now Congress shows they have a pen and phone as well. Obama could have invited Congress to oversee (which is Congress' duty by the way) such international deals but he cut them out. Now he gets the slap of a cold fish in the face and doesn't like it. The moral of the story to Obama: Actions have consequences. Are you surprised? Really?
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    Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    There was just another post similar to this posted.

    I'll summarize what I posted in that thread: Obama has gone out of his way to thumb his nose at Congress and Republicans in general. "I won" and "I have a pen and phone" are just a sample of those astoundingly arrogant statements. Now Congress shows they have a pen and phone as well. Obama could have invited Congress to oversee (which is Congress' duty by the way) such international deals but he cut them out. Now he gets the slap of a cold fish in the face and doesn't like it. The moral of the story to Obama: Actions have consequences. Are you surprised? Really?
    I didn't see another thread like this when I posted. Perhaps the mods could merge the two if they're similar. Thanks.
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    Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

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    Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership - Bloomberg Politics

    President Obama: "It's somewhat ironic seeing some members of Congress wanting to make common cause with the hardliners in Iran..... It's an unlikely coalition."

    Interesting. Seems to me, the President distorts the issue for political gain and is subtly trying to claim that Republicans are fraternizing with the enemy or perhaps even treasonous. And yet no reaction or condemnation from Democrats or their friends in the media. Rudy Guilliani states that he believes that President Obama doesn't love his country and all hell breaks lose, the full force of the Democrat party and their media puppets attacking with all force. But when the shoe is on the other foot, again the attack is on the Republican party and the Democrat media protects their saviour and master.

    Interesting. Also, isn't President Obama trying to 'make common cause with the hardliners in Iran" through the deal negotiations he's involved in?
    Indeed.

    My read of the negotiations is that Obama is desperate for a foreign policy win for his legacy. We can see this with Cuba and other, where he's failed pretty much on all of them.

    Check me if I'm wrong, but there's a long and strong history of bargaining, negotiation in the Bazaar in Persia. Being such, those negotiation skills are probably very sharp and well honed, unlike Obama's negotiating skills, as we've seen.

    When those skills and cultural background are presented with a desperate Obama negotiating, it's perceived as a sign of weakness, a sign of the easily exploited.

    Sure, the Iranians would like to have a deal where they are allowed nuclear arms and nuclear fuel refinement (precursor to nuclear weapon). Short of that, any delay in further economic sanctions being imposed or the lifting of existing economic sanctions in order to afford their covert nuclear refinement program is a win for them. They aren't losing anything in this process, they have only wins.

    It also come to question whether they will actually adhere and honor their commitments in the future. So far they've not. They've missed every deadline, delayed every sequence of steps, and haven't complied with the UN inspectors. So Obama sees fit to trust them?

    The GOP Senators, with their letter to Iranian leadership, are expressing their distrust of both the Iranian leadership and Obama.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    There was just another post similar to this posted.

    I'll summarize what I posted in that thread: Obama has gone out of his way to thumb his nose at Congress and Republicans in general. "I won" and "I have a pen and phone" are just a sample of those astoundingly arrogant statements. Now Congress shows they have a pen and phone as well. Obama could have invited Congress to oversee (which is Congress' duty by the way) such international deals but he cut them out. Now he gets the slap of a cold fish in the face and doesn't like it. The moral of the story to Obama: Actions have consequences. Are you surprised? Really?
    Nope. But I'm sure that Obama, in his narcissistic arrogance that's displayed from the beginning, finds this severely offensive. I'd hazard a guess that he sees this as little more than racist in it's motivation, where it's nothing of the sort. It's not racist. It's a distinct lack of trust in Obama that the GOP have. Obama has done nothing to earn any trust from the GOP, as all they get from him is a right cross instead of a hand shake. Obama's been spoiling for fighting with congress and the GOP from his very first day in office.
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    Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

    Nobody in this thread has any idea what is in the agreement yet want to undermine and attack it because....well Obama.
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    Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    Nobody in this thread has any idea what is in the agreement yet want to undermine and attack it because....well Obama.
    No, not because Obama is Obama, more specifically, lack of trust in Obama. Something he's never bothered to earn, and now it haunts him.
    He made his own bed. now he gets to sleep in it.
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    Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    Nobody in this thread has any idea what is in the agreement yet want to undermine and attack it because....well Obama.
    Maybe thats because even Obama has said that we wont know what is in the agreement until it has already been made. Yay transparency

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    Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    Nobody in this thread has any idea what is in the agreement yet want to undermine and attack it because....well Obama.
    Thats a good point. 'Obama' gave us a piece of **** healthcare law that is so bad even HE wont fully administer it and that was so convoluted the democrats (and their mindless muppets) voted for it and supported it without so much as bothering to read it. People liek...say...YOU are smart enough to understand that Iran has PROVEN they cant be trusted and the president is telling us not to worry about it...they will pass something and then let the American people know what it is after the fact.

    So yeah...pardon me for not trusting them...or him. And considering their foreign policy history and the nightmare that the ME became after Obama's support of the celebrated 'Arab Spring' and their stupidity over that little 'JV" team known as ISIS, you will again have to forgive us for being a bit apprehensive.

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    Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    No, not because Obama is Obama, more specifically, lack of trust in Obama. Something he's never bothered to earn, and now it haunts him.
    He made his own bed. now he gets to sleep in it.
    your trust in him is irrelevant.


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    Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    Nobody in this thread has any idea what is in the agreement yet want to undermine and attack it because....well Obama.
    Based on the White House's own statements, nobody will until its agreed.

    Mark Knoller: "WH says if nuke deal is reached with Iran it won't be a treaty subject to Senate ratification."

    So the Republicans are correct, it will be a deal between the current Executive branch and Iran, to be terminated at the descresion of future Executive branch leaders.

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