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Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership [W:251]

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And you believe Maliki, despite his having to please several different factions and telling them what they wanted to hear?

What's interesting is that, as a typical leftist, you'd believe a foreign leader who has been much criticized over the years over an American Democrat who has served his country well. It's difficult to believe you were raised and educated in a free society.

The fact that he had to appease others makes my point. And make no mistake, both sides have reasons other than the truth to make their public statements. You accept on who. I accept on evidence. Can you see the problem with your position?
 
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The fact that he had to appease others makes my point. And make no mistake, both sides have reasons other than the truth to make their public statements. You accept on who. I accept on evidence. Can you see the problem with your position?
No, it doesn't make your point at all. Instead it demonstrates that you have no understanding of negotiating, much less mid-East politics. Your "evidence"? What nonsense! Of course it's a matter of "who", plus where and when. All these are factored in and you're believing a leader involved in mid East chaos rather than a distinguished fellow American? This is the bizarre leftist mind in action.

You are either ignoring the evidence or have no idea of what it is.
 
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No, it doesn't make your point at all. Instead it demonstrates that you have no understanding of negotiating, much less mid-East politics. Your "evidence"? What nonsense! Of course it's a matter of "who", plus where and when. All these are factored in and you're believing a leader involved in mid East chaos rather than a distinguished fellow American? This is the bizarre leftist mind in action.

You are either ignoring the evidence or have no idea of what it is.

I understand fine. Both sides appease there groups, both sides make ingenuous statements. But the evidence is we were not wanted there. The evidence is Bush set the date for leaving. Iraqis agreed to it. And the people wanted us gone.
 
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I understand fine. Both sides appease there groups, both sides make ingenuous statements. But the evidence is we were not wanted there. The evidence is Bush set the date for leaving. Iraqis agreed to it. And the people wanted us gone.

GWB did not set the date for leaving. He set the date for expiration of the SOFA, allowing BHO two full years to negotiate his own. GWB and every DoD planner believed a robust residual force would remain indefinitely.
 
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This proves Obama is just a puppet.

“Cheney gives the orders here now, not Obama, and you assholes better get used to it!”

Tuesday, 10 March 2015


A shocking report published by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs (MoFA) today states that the Kremlin was “stunned” yesterday after Minister Sergey Lavrov endured a nearly one-hour tirade from US Assistant Secretary of State for European and Eurasian Affairs Victoria Nuland [photo top right] who, among other claims, “raged” that former Vice President Richard “Dick” Cheney was in charge of the United States, not President Barack Obama.

According to this report, a “highly agitated” Secretary Nuland contacted Minister Lavrov yesterday demanding that Russia immediately order Iran to return to US custody the 4 CIA agents arrested and detained for directing ISIS terror forces in Iraq.

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Secretary Nuland, also, this report continues, “bluntly warned” Minister Lavrov that should Moscow ever again provide to France, or any other NATO nation, superior “electronic-technology”, and for the Russian air force to continue disabling US warships, she would further order the American military to “aggressively respond”.

Roberto Abraham Scaruffi: “Cheney gives the orders here now, not Obama, and you assholes better get used to it!”
 
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GWB did not set the date for leaving. He set the date for expiration of the SOFA, allowing BHO two full years to negotiate his own. GWB and every DoD planner believed a robust residual force would remain indefinitely.
No use. It's beyond their understanding and their beliefs are inflexible.
 
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GWB did not set the date for leaving. He set the date for expiration of the SOFA, allowing BHO two full years to negotiate his own. GWB and every DoD planner believed a robust residual force would remain indefinitely.

And Iraq turned it down. Not Obama's problem nor can it be laid at his doorstep.
 
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And Iraq turned it down. Not Obama's problem nor can it be laid at his doorstep.

Iraq turned it down after BHO dropped the projected residual force level below what would have been worth the political capital the Iraqi government would have to use.
 
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Iraq turned it down after BHO dropped the projected residual force level below what would have been worth the political capital the Iraqi government would have to use.

They also wanted US troops to be tried in Iraqi Courts.
 
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And Iraq turned it down. Not Obama's problem nor can it be laid at his doorstep.

Iraq turned it down after Obama made demands that the political leaders could not meet.

He left Iraq to the wolves, took credit for victory, and then left town.
 
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Iraq turned it down after Obama made demands that the political leaders could not meet.

He left Iraq to the wolves, took credit for victory, and then left town.

Links on the above as there is more than 1 link.
 
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They also wanted US troops to be tried in Iraqi Courts.

That would have been in the absence of a SOFA. That only entered the discussion after BHO dropped the projected residual force level too low to be of value.
 
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That would have been in the absence of a SOFA. That only entered the discussion after BHO dropped the projected residual force level too low to be of value.

You know as well as I Maliki did not want the US in Iraq. And the negotiations so ended.
Not to be laid at Obama's doorstep.
 
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You know as well as I Maliki did not want the US in Iraq. And the negotiations so ended.
Not to be laid at Obama's doorstep.

Actually I don't know that at all. I know Maliki was not going to accept the political cost unless the residual US force was powerful enough to matter. BHO was handed a victory in Iraq, but threw it away.
 
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If you have a new car get something wrong, the dealer refused to repair and said the the new board directors of manufactoy won't admit the guarantee made by the old CEO. What would you do?
 
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If you have a new car get something wrong, the dealer refused to repair and said the the new board directors of manufactoy won't admit the guarantee made by the old CEO. What would you do?
I would do as the military suggested.
 
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What's this new "angel of bagdhad" iranian propaganda I keep getting in various feeds? We're supposed to cheer for this guy who a few years ago was killing americans in iraq, (but Iran wasn't in iraq....)


and while we give into Iran, let's sweep under the rug the fact many IED's killing americans had "made in iran" stamped all over them
 
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Lol. That there are people who think that anything about Iraq was ever a success story. Nobody thinks that, no.
 
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Lol. That there are people who think that anything about Iraq was ever a success story. Nobody thinks that, no.

The only "success" we got was when we got out of there. The idea that 4000 Americans died in that hell hole is a tragedy and for what? Bush handed it to Iran by vetting and approving that butcher Maliki.
 
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To war with Iran.
So the Israeli government suggested that the US go to war with Iran? Or was it Iraq? Do you have a non-conspiratorial link to either of these news items?
 
Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

So the Israeli government suggested that the US go to war with Iran? Or was it Iraq? Do you have a non-conspiratorial link to either of these news items?


Entangling the US in a War with Iran

February 3, 2015


Since the early days of the Republic, foreign countries have sought to entangle the United States in their wars with some Americans collaborating in those efforts. Today, that country is Israel as it works with Republicans to expand hostilities toward Iran, writes Lawrence Davidson.

https://consortiumnews.com/2015/02/03/entangling-the-us-in-a-war-with-iran/
 
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