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Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership [W:251]

Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

Well it's a good thing the agreement is based on the idea of stopping the Iranian nuclear program.

Who has inspected Parchin or Badr? Are they on the list? Who knows?
 
Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

Well it's a good thing the agreement is based on the idea of stopping the Iranian nuclear program.

We don't know that at this point...
 
Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

No, not at all. That's why congress created an ethics board to council retiring DOD employees about it. Really, you should read the link, remember what it says, and then comment, in that order!

Every federal agency, including my own alma mater, includes ethics counseling for those about to retire. DoD is nothing different.
 
Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

The branches of government aren't co-equal in all realms.

They are, actually. That they have different roles does not diminish their co-equal-ness. The Legislative, additionally, has oversight authority on the Executive, which the Executive is trying to obfuscate.
 
Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

Every federal agency, including my own alma mater, includes ethics counseling for those about to retire. DoD is nothing different.

Right. And you make my point.
 
Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership - Bloomberg Politics

President Obama: "It's somewhat ironic seeing some members of Congress wanting to make common cause with the hardliners in Iran..... It's an unlikely coalition."

Interesting. Seems to me, the President distorts the issue for political gain and is subtly trying to claim that Republicans are fraternizing with the enemy or perhaps even treasonous. And yet no reaction or condemnation from Democrats or their friends in the media. Rudy Guilliani states that he believes that President Obama doesn't love his country and all hell breaks lose, the full force of the Democrat party and their media puppets attacking with all force. But when the shoe is on the other foot, again the attack is on the Republican party and the Democrat media protects their saviour and master.

Interesting. Also, isn't President Obama trying to 'make common cause with the hardliners in Iran" through the deal negotiations he's involved in?

Agreed. Basically Obama is in fact phasing in nukes for Iran...while phasing out the economic sanctions intended to keep them from getting nukes.
 
Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

Then I'm sure you'll have no trouble identifying an active duty decision made to secure post retirement riches.

I understand the necessity for ethics counseling to help people do the right thing.
 
Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

It's an imaginary problem.

Yes, and the ethics counseling is an imaginary solution.
 
Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

You sit politely, you listen to the spiel, you move on.

Right, because it's a liberal conspiracy that men aren't angels, or corruptible. Ethics counseling is just a wasteful facade. Leave it to the conservative mind and there'd be no regulation, no accountability, no guidance, no restrictions, no sense.
 
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Right, because it's a liberal conspiracy that men aren't angels, or corruptible. Ethics counseling is just a wasteful facade. Leave it to the conservative mind and there'd be no regulation, no accountability, no guidance, no restrictions, no sense.

You had it right: it's an imaginary solution to an imaginary problem.
 
Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

You had it right: it's an imaginary solution to an imaginary problem.

The DOD, an imaginary solution to an imaginary problem.
 
Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

Both Israeli and US intelligence agencies conclude that Iran is in fact not building nuclear weapons. We've heard false claims of other middle eastern countries as well.
Yes, and intel has been sooooo reliable in recent history. Tell me, did you believe US intel that Saddam was aquiring WMD?
 
Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

Yes, and intel has been sooooo reliable in recent history. Tell me, did you believe US intel that Saddam was aquiring WMD?

Well, if once wrong always wrong, then there's a bigger problem than you think.
 
Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

They are, actually. That they have different roles does not diminish their co-equal-ness. The Legislative, additionally, has oversight authority on the Executive, which the Executive is trying to obfuscate.

There is oversight but Congress has more power when it comes to the purse strings, Executive has more power when it comes to foreign relations, and the courts have more power in determining if a law if constitutional.

They have roles that they each lead in, and there are checks in place, but I wouldn't call them co-equal in all realms.
 
Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

YOU LIED... those quotes are NOT IN THE WSJ artricle....

wow..a new low ..you just made it up

Go to the WSJ above. Click on it and see it is the WSJ. Then apologize.
 
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From your link: Ali al-Mussawi, the media adviser to Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki, said in a television interview that Panetta’s statement was “not true” and the possibility that a small contingent of American troops will stay on in Iraq after the December deadline “hasn’t been agreed on yet.”
 
Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

Defense Secretary Leon Panetta announced Friday that Iraq has already requested the U.S. remain beyond 2011 and the Pentagon is in the process of negotiating that agreement.

Panetta told Stars and Stripes, "My view is that they finally did say, 'Yes.'"

Now that the Pentagon has unanimous consent from Iraq's leaders, it will move forward on establishing what type of forces will remain and what their function will be.

Panetta made clear, however, that the U.S. will continue its commitment to withdrawing all combat troops from the country by the established deadline.


It's Official: Iraq Wants The U.S. To Stay - Business Insider

Read more: It's Official: Iraq Wants The U.S. To Stay - Business Insider

LOL. Didn't we cover this in the last link, the one that says more?
 
Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

There is oversight but Congress has more power when it comes to the purse strings, Executive has more power when it comes to foreign relations, and the courts have more power in determining if a law if constitutional.

They have roles that they each lead in, and there are checks in place, but I wouldn't call them co-equal in all realms.

They are co-equal in authority regardless of roles. Further, no foreign relations agreement is binding without congressional consent.
 
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They are co-equal in authority regardless of roles. Further, no foreign relations agreement is binding without congressional consent.

They are? So President Obama has just as much authority in creating a budget as the House? President Obama has just as much authority on the constitutionality of laws as the Courts?

As for binding...the majority of international agreements post WWII have been through executive Agreements...and they've ranged from Eisenhower declaring the US would aid Spain if attacked to GW Bush saying that the US could create a Force agreement with Iraq without Congressional approval.
 
Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

From your link: Ali al-Mussawi, the media adviser to Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki, said in a television interview that Panetta’s statement was “not true” and the possibility that a small contingent of American troops will stay on in Iraq after the December deadline “hasn’t been agreed on yet.”
And you believe Maliki, despite his having to please several different factions and telling them what they wanted to hear?

What's interesting is that, as a typical leftist, you'd believe a foreign leader who has been much criticized over the years over an American Democrat who has served his country well. It's difficult to believe you were raised and educated in a free society.

Leon Edward Panetta (born June 28, 1938) is an American statesman, lawyer, and professor. He served in the Barack Obama administration as Director of the Central Intelligence Agency from 2009 to 2011 and as Secretary of Defense from 2011 to 2013. A Democrat, Panetta was a member of the United States House of Representatives from 1977 to 1993, served as Director of the Office of Management and Budget from 1993 to 1994 and as President Bill Clinton's Chief of Staff from 1994 to 1997. He is the founder of the Panetta Institute for Public Policy, served as Distinguished Scholar to Chancellor Charles B. Reed of the California State University System and professor of public policy at Santa Clara University.
 
Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

They are? So President Obama has just as much authority in creating a budget as the House? President Obama has just as much authority on the constitutionality of laws as the Courts?

Actually, that's his job.

As for binding...the majority of international agreements post WWII have been through executive Agreements...and they've ranged from Eisenhower declaring the US would aid Spain if attacked to GW Bush saying that the US could create a Force agreement with Iraq without Congressional approval.

Yep, and Clinton promised to protect the Ukraine if attacked. How's that going?
 
Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

And you believe Maliki, despite his having to please several different factions and telling them what they wanted to hear?

What's interesting is that, as a typical leftist, you'd believe a foreign leader who has been much criticized over the years over an American Democrat who has served his country well. It's difficult to believe you were raised and educated in a free society.

The fact that he had to appease others makes my point. And make no mistake, both sides have reasons other than the truth to make their public statements. You accept on who. I accept on evidence. Can you see the problem with your position?
 
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