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    Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    They don't
    And do you think it's OK that the Senate has not even been allowed to read let alone ratify the most important treaty of the Obama administration?

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    Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    That makes them fools. It was never going to happen. It required more than residual troops; the place required significant numbers of troops, which will never happen with a democracy.
    They envisioned at least 20,000 troops remaining because that was the responsible thing to do.
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    Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

    Quote Originally Posted by face, your View Post
    And do you think it's OK that the Senate has not even been allowed to read let alone ratify the most important treaty of the Obama administration?
    Well...seeing as to how an agreement hasn't been reached yet there's nothing to currently vote on. As for once an agreement is reached, it's within the law of executive agreements. I'm not really worried about the Congress because they haven't been able to do virtually anything.

    They couldn't pass the international version of the Disabilities Act through the House, even when Bob Dole in his wheel chair gave a plea to members to support this bill. If an agreement is reached with Iran that has the potential to stop them from working on nuclear weapons without the use of force? Normally would like Congressional approval but I'm not sure this Congress could pass anything at the moment.
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    Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    They envisioned at least 20,000 troops remaining because that was the responsible thing to do.
    And the military and Bush administration wanted 40-50,000 to remain so that troops would remain as secure as possible. Obama must have understood that fewer troops mean they face greater risks.

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    Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Yeah I know that. I'm just making the point how rational it is for DOD planers, the same guys that retire from the Pentagon to cushy defense industry jobs, to want to leave indefinite military presences all over the world if possible, and the more war the merrier. Just because it's been repeated ad nauseam doesn't diminish Eisenhower's very articulate warning about the defense contractor industry.
    When you have some evidence to raise your remark above the level of casual slander please let me know.
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    Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    When you have some evidence to raise your remark above the level of casual slander please let me know.
    Are you a former DOD employee?
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Are you a former DOD employee?
    No, but many DoD civilians and many military personnel, both officers and enlisted, have been my friends and colleagues over the years. Their level of selflessness is apparently unknown to you.
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    Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    No, but many DoD civilians and many military personnel, both officers and enlisted, have been my friends and colleagues over the years. Their level of selflessness is apparently unknown to you.
    True, your friends are probably unknown to me. But human nature is selfish. And unless your denying that DOD personnel often retire to lucrative jobs with defense contractors, why are you offended?
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    True, your friends are probably unknown to me. But human nature is selfish. And unless your denying that DOD personnel often retire to lucrative jobs with defense contractors, why are you offended?
    A few (not very many, actually) move on to the defense industry, but your implication that their work while on active duty is motivated by downstream profits is reprehensible.
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    Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    A few (not very many, actually) move on to the defense industry, but your implication that their work while on active duty is motivated by downstream profits is reprehensible.
    I'm sorry that your feelings were hurt.

    New Database Tracks Revolving Door Between DoD and Defense Industry
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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