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    Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    Again you repeat that same fairytale, Bush wanted a long term agreement like we have with South Korea but the Iraqi's would have none of it and would not agree to any open ended occupation. He struggled to get even the 3 year agreement before his U.N. sanctioned occupation time was up. As far as dead we need to count the Sunnis that Maliki's Shia militias murdered as well. The choice of supporting a sectarian terrorist while he commits genocide or following through with the agreement that Bush signed was probably not that difficult given that the Iraqi's wanted us out badly anyway.
    If Obama wanted to end the war in Iraq, as he claimed repeatedly that he did, and said that the war was a success, that "We knew this day would come. We've known it for some time. But still there is something profound about the end of a war that has lasted so long," said Obama. "It's harder to end a war than begin one. Everything that American troops have done in Iraq - all the fighting, all the dying, the bleeding and the building and the training and the partnering, all of it has landed to this moment of success."

    If that was the case, what difference would a SOFA make?

    Obama and his sycophants are now blaming it on Bush and the lack of a SOFA, or Maliki forcing them out, when his words, actions and intentions run contrary to all of this.

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    Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Barack Obama declares Iraq war a success President told an audience of soldiers at Fort Bragg that the final pullout after nearly nine years of conflict is a 'historic' moment

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    ....But the president, who came to power promising to end the war, said that for all the suffering, the result was success.
    No, Obama did not declare the Iraq War a success. He said the sum of what the troops did in Iraq was historic and "a moment of success" ....not that the entire Iraq War or the surge was a success....

    From Guardian article...

    "We knew this day would come. We've known it for some time. But still there is something profound about the end of a war that has lasted so long," said Obama. "It's harder to end a war than begin one. Everything that American troops have done in Iraq - all the fighting, all the dying, the bleeding and the building and the training and the partnering, all of it has landed to this moment of success."

    Obama's studiously avoided declaring victory or the hubris of his predecessor, George Bush, who paraded under a banner proclaiming "Mission Accomplished" just as the worst of the killing in Iraq was about to begin. But the president said that the US has left Iraq better than it found it.

    "Iraq's not a perfect place. It has many challenges ahead. But we're leaving behind a sovereign, stable and self reliant Iraq with a representative government that was elected by its people. We're building a new partnership between our nations and we are ending a war not with a final battle but with a final march toward home. This is an extraordinary achievement," he said..."

    http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...aq-war-success
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    Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    No, Obama did not declare the Iraq War a success. He said the sum of what the troops did in Iraq was "a moment of success" not that the entire Iraq War or the surge was a success....


    "We knew this day would come. We've known it for some time. But still there is something profound about the end of a war that has lasted so long," said Obama. "It's harder to end a war than begin one. Everything that American troops have done in Iraq - all the fighting, all the dying, the bleeding and the building and the training and the partnering, all of it has landed to this moment of success."
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    Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    false choice.
    If we'd have taken out Assad as well ISIS would have spread wider and faster in Syria and probably further due to the lack of resistance.
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    Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Deny deny deny.
    I just quoted your link.

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    Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    If we'd have taken out Assad as well ISIS would have spread wider and faster in Syria and probably further due to the lack of resistance.
    there are more factions at play than just Assad and ISIS.

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    Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    I just quoted your link.
    And misinterpreted it.
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    Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    there are more factions at play than just Assad and ISIS.
    A helluva lot more. You are right. But the guy I addressed seemed to be pushing the whole "Obama should've taken out Assad" angle.
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    Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    If we'd have taken out Assad as well ISIS would have spread wider and faster in Syria and probably further due to the lack of resistance.

    The window of opportunity in Syria was early 2012. The Assad regime was on the defensive, opposition morale was high, the secular rebels were in charge and ISIS had not yet formed. During that window we did nothing.
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    Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    A helluva lot more. You are right. But the guy I addressed seemed to be pushing the whole "Obama should've taken out Assad" angle.
    he should have backed the Syrian National Coalition with more than just words... they would have taken out Assad, and they've no love for ISIS either.

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