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    Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Link?


    Really, what level was that?

    But once again, you seem to assume that Iraqi's aren't intelligent enough to make their own decisions. So what part of "no immunity for US troops that commit crimes against Iraq civilians" don't you understand?
    Barack Obama declares Iraq war a success

    President told an audience of soldiers at Fort Bragg that the final pullout after nearly nine years of conflict is a 'historic' moment




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    Barack Obama marked an end to a war he once described as "dumb" by declaring the conflict in Iraq a success and saying the last US troops will leave in the coming days with their "heads held high".
    The president told an audience of soldiers at Fort Bragg that the final pullout from Iraq after nearly nine years of war is a "historic" moment and that the country they leave behind is "an extraordinary achievement".
    "Dozens of bases with American names that housed thousands of American troops have been closed down or turned over to the Iraqis. Thousands of tons of equipment have been packed up and shipped out. Tomorrow, the colours of United States Forces Iraq, the colours you fought under, will be formally cased in a ceremony in Baghdad," he said. "One of the most extraordinary chapters in the history of the American military will come to an end. Iraq's future will be in the hands of its people. America's war in Iraq will be over."
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    The president said the last US troops will leave in the coming days, travelling south across the desert by much the same route that American, British and coalition forces attacked Iraq in 2003.
    Obama hinted at the military and diplomatic quagmire he inherited from a Bush administration that had promised Americans a quick and easy war that would see Iraqis scattering flowers at the feet of US soldiers. Instead, the American invasion unleashed a conflict - part civil war, part anti-occupation - that dragged on for years.
    But the president, who came to power promising to end the war, said that for all the suffering, the result was success.
    "We knew this day would come. We've known it for some time. But still there is something profound about the end of a war that has lasted so long," said Obama. "It's harder to end a war than begin one. Everything that American troops have done in Iraq - all the fighting, all the dying, the bleeding and the building and the training and the partnering, all of it has landed to this moment of success."
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    Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Actually, the more troops the easier.
    Given the anti-american sentiment in Iraq, I think you are fooling yourself. But you are no stranger to that.

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    Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    Given the anti-american sentiment in Iraq, I think you are fooling yourself. But you are no stranger to that.
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    Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership [W:251]

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Tell your bull**** about yields to those innocents that died that day, and the following days, and weeks and months, and to all those that lived but suffered their entire lives because of low yield American nuclear weapons.
    LOL !!! Nonsense...

    What about the innocents that died in Japanese POW camps ? Or all of the innocent Chinese that were tortured and killed by the Japanese ?

    Japanese war crimes - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Were the " innocents " that died in Tokyo, Berlin, Hamburg and Dresden less "innocents " than the " innocents " that died in Nagasaki ?

    Your butt hurt over the existence of America is compromising your rationality....and its funny.
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    Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership [W:251]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    LOL !!! Nonsense...

    What about the innocents that died in Japanese POW camps ? Or all of the innocent Chinese that were tortured and killed by the Japanese ?

    Japanese war crimes - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Were the " innocents " that died in Tokyo, Berlin, Hamburg and Dresden less "innocents " than the " innocents " that died in Nagasaki ?

    Your butt hurt over the existence of America is compromising your rationality....and its funny.
    All countries commit war crimes during war, stop acting like your **** doesn't stink. It's the hypocrisy.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    LOL Bush tried and failed to get any long term agreements to stay in Iraq. Stop covering for him he is not worth it. And stop with the DoD planners, they had nothing to do with the Iraqi Govt. and their desire for us to leave.
    All SOFA's have expiry dates on them and this one went well into Obama's term. This blaming everything on Bush is adolescent and wrong. Obama has screwed up everywhere and you must be mature enough to just accept that. Obama promised to leave, he did, and now we have what we have, with many thousands of people dead and a great war on the way..

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    Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Thank you for making my point. From your link: ". . . . Ultimately, at great political risk, President Obama approved negotiations with the Iraqi government to allow a force of around 5,000 American troops to stay in Iraq to provide counterterrorism support and air cover and to train the Iraqi army. . . . "

    5,000 troops was about one-fourth of what Maliki expected and what would have been worth his political effort.
    Yes, and it was significantly less than anyone recommended at the time and would have been very risky for those 5,000 left behind. Thirty -50,000 was the general recommendation.

    Maliki knew, as most of us know now, that Obama was not serious.

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    Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    Given the anti-american sentiment in Iraq, I think you are fooling yourself. But you are no stranger to that.
    There has always been anti American and pro American sentiment, often encouraged by the local media and ambitious politicians and should not effect US Foreign Policy. The truth should be understood by those who want to live in America.

    Among the most anti American people in the world are the mis-educated American leftists.

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    Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    But the president, who came to power promising to end the war, said that for all the suffering, the result was success.

    "We knew this day would come. We've known it for some time. But still there is something profound about the end of a war that has lasted so long," said Obama. "It's harder to end a war than begin one. Everything that American troops have done in Iraq - all the fighting, all the dying, the bleeding and the building and the training and the partnering, all of it has landed to this moment of success."
    This narcissistic didn't even stop to think that it takes a minimum of two sides to end a war. It was one of the most stunning screw-ups in world history, and certainly American history.

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    Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    All SOFA's have expiry dates on them and this one went well into Obama's term. This blaming everything on Bush is adolescent and wrong. Obama has screwed up everywhere and you must be mature enough to just accept that. Obama promised to leave, he did, and now we have what we have, with many thousands of people dead and a great war on the way..

    FLASHBACK
    Again you repeat that same fairytale, Bush wanted a long term agreement like we have with South Korea but the Iraqi's would have none of it and would not agree to any open ended occupation. He struggled to get even the 3 year agreement before his U.N. sanctioned occupation time was up. As far as dead we need to count the Sunnis that Maliki's Shia militias murdered as well. The choice of supporting a sectarian terrorist while he commits genocide or following through with the agreement that Bush signed was probably not that difficult given that the Iraqi's wanted us out badly anyway.

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