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    Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    Bush and the Iraqi's signed an agreement to have ALL US troops out by 2011 because that is all the time they would allow. Not becuase that is what Bush wanted. That never changed despite Maliki's flim flamming otherwise. If Bush had not failed to get a long term agreement, Obama would not have been able to withdraw but that is not the way it went down.
    GWB went for that agreement because he did not wish to tie his successor's hands. Every DoD planner, without exception, expected an agreement to keep a robust US residual force in Iraq.
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    Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Funny, then how two different Secretaries of Defense for the Obama Administration who were directly involved seem to remember that differently....



    Even your article describes a rapid and full pull-out as "Obama's preference". Witness the results of his policy decision therein.
    LOL Who cares what they said? It only matters what the Iraqi's did and wanted. They REFUSED to sign any long term agreements with Bush. The truth is that it was the Iraqi's that kicked us out on our ear with the agreement Bush signed in their hands. We had no "leverage" only a signed agreement to leave. No amount of hedging can change that.

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    Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    LOL Who cares what they said? It only matter what the Iraqi's did and wanted. The truth is that it was the Iraqi's that kicked us out on our ear with the agreement Bush signed in their hands. We had no "leverage" only a signed agreement to leave. No amount of hedging can change that.
    Wrong. BHO kept lowering the projected residual force level until it was no longer worth the political effort for the Iraqis.
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    Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    No.. I mean pulled out
    Would you prefer to have US troops charged with crimes, tried in Iraq courts and sentenced to Iraq prisons? Because that's what you seem to be advocating for in order to have US stay in Iraq.

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    Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Would you prefer to have US troops charged with crimes, tried in Iraq courts and sentenced to Iraq prisons? Because that's what you seem to be advocating for in order to have US stay in Iraq.
    US forces in Iraq now are immune.
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    Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    GWB went for that agreement because he did not wish to tie his successor's hands. Every DoD planner, without exception, expected an agreement to keep a robust US residual force in Iraq.
    LOL Bush tried and failed to get any long term agreements to stay in Iraq. Stop covering for him he is not worth it. And stop with the DoD planners, they had nothing to do with the Iraqi Govt. and their desire for us to leave.

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    Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    US forces in Iraq now are immune.
    Because they were asked back by the new Govt. and Maliki is gone.

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    Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Wrong. BHO kept lowering the projected residual force level until it was no longer worth the political effort for the Iraqis.
    They never agreed to a SOFA at any troop level so that too is a falsehood.

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    Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    LOL Bush tried and failed to get any long term agreements to stay in Iraq. Stop covering for him he is not worth it. And stop with the DoD planners, they had nothing to do with the Iraqi Govt. and their desire for us to leave.
    The Iraqis would have liked for us to stay if we were going to stay in sufficient force to make a difference.
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    Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    Because they were asked back by the new Govt. and Maliki is gone.
    I believe Maliki was still there when immunity was granted.
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