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    Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Which remains valid as well.
    Sense he likely isn't privy to the agreement that's being negotiated, no, it does not.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Sense he likely isn't privy to the agreement that's being negotiated, no, it does not.
    His point had nothing whatsoever to do with what is or is not in the terms under discussion, but rather with political skill.
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    Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    So Netanyahu spoke to Congress and Putin invaded the Ukraine because they are racist?
    Are they? I guess you would know.

    Wasn't Obama going to be more 'flexible' with Putin after the last election? What was that all about?
    I dunno, I thought he was going to be more flexible with Medvedev. Did your hero Putin kill him, too?

    Which US foreign policy do you have in mind? I doubt Obama even has a foreign policy, but correct me if I'm wrong.
    As far as I can tell, his foreign policy is pretty much the same as GWBush's foreign policy...which was fine with conservatives when Bush was president.

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    Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    As far as I can tell, his foreign policy is pretty much the same as GWBush's foreign policy...which was fine with conservatives when Bush was president.
    Well, no. GWB's policy was not to abdicate responsibility in Iraq, and he would surely have given timely support to the early (and secular) Syrian opposition. There would likely have been no ISIS. Putin would certainly not have been so bold in Ukraine, and neither Israel nor our Arab allies would have been so skeptical of our dealings with Iran.
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    Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Well, no. GWB's policy was not to abdicate responsibility in Iraq, and he would surely have given timely support to the early (and secular) Syrian opposition. There would likely have been no ISIS. Putin would certainly not have been so bold in Ukraine, and neither Israel nor our Arab allies would have been so skeptical of our dealings with Iran.
    Forcing an election to put Nouri al-Maliki in office was an abdication of responsibility in Iraq.

    Its' too bad that in 2004 in Fallajah, the US military didn't have any translators because it might have prevented the wholesale slaughter of Iraq civilians by US troops, which polarized public opinion in Iraq against them and helped give rise to ISIS....

    "...The battle also pushed Abu Musab al-Zarqawi into the public spotlight as the best-known commander of anti-Coalition forces in Iraq, and brought public attention to the concept of a Sunni Triangle..."

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    Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Forcing an election to put Nouri al-Maliki in office was an abdication of responsibility in Iraq.

    Its' too bad that in 2004 in Fallajah, the US military didn't have any translators because it might have prevented the wholesale slaughter of Iraq civilians by US troops, which polarized public opinion in Iraq against them and helped give rise to ISIS....

    "...The battle also pushed Abu Musab al-Zarqawi into the public spotlight as the best-known commander of anti-Coalition forces in Iraq, and brought public attention to the concept of a Sunni Triangle..."

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    Maliki was the winner of a free election, and the conduct of the war in 2004 is not really on point.
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    Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    Why wouldnt Iran develop a nuke if they could?
    Iran wants, and sees themselves, as the next Persian empire. A nuke should would solidify their position in that endeavor.

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    Seems like they see themselves as sliding into the political leadership end of ISIS or something?

    Yeah, a nuke sure would solidify them as a regional power, this nation that exports and supports terrorism on a daily basis. Trust them with a nuke? Are you crazy?
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    Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Maliki was the winner of a free election, and the conduct of the war in 2004 is not really on point.
    When discussing the origins of ISIS, it's spot on.

    Knowing that Shiites were the majority in Iraq, it didn't take a genius to see who would win an election or who they were allied with. Your boy Bush practically handed Iraq to Iran on a silver platter by forcing that election on a population that believes in Sharia law more than it does democracy.

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    Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership [W:251]

    Quote Originally Posted by ProgressivPower View Post
    Can you believe that only 1/3rd of eligible voters voted in 2014.......with a big assist from GOP voter suppression efforts in Red States....yes sir the GOP is alive and well - in non presidential election years and when they block the vote......the final sands of the demographic hour glass are draining fast for the GOP.....soon to be a permanent minority party - never again to attain the white house.
    Which GOP voter suppression efforts?

    Oh, you mean the verification of the eligibility of voters? How is it that verifying eligibility of voters suppression unless the voters aren't eligible?
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    Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    When discussing the origins of ISIS, it's spot on.

    Knowing that Shiites were the majority in Iraq, it didn't take a genius to see who would win an election or who they were allied with. Your boy Bush practically handed Iraq to Iran on a silver platter by forcing that election.
    Oh don't be modest - Obama gets the credit for leaving a power vacuum for Iran on that count. That will be one to go in the Presidential Library along with Yemen, the Syrian "red line" and allowing Iran nukes. woot!
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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