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    Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Good evening 2M

    Sometimes I feel as if columnists are reading my posts here on DP and using some of my thoughts in their columns. And this isn't the first time I've felt this way. My post 107 in this thread says pretty much the same thing.

    Perhaps it's just great minds coming up with similar ideas simultaneously.
    Good evening, CJ. I'm sure the "great minds" thesis is the answer.

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    Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    He can't know any more than you can, but that's not the point. He was pointing out how much more adroit Clinton was.
    Yes, I understood his opinion on that. But I trust the P5+1's understanding of what they're looking at, more than I do Mr. Theissen's which is certainly based upon an agreement that he likely is not looking at.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Yes, I understood his opinion on that. But I trust the P5+1's understanding of what they're looking at, more than I do Mr. Theissen's which is certainly based upon an agreement that he likely is not looking at.
    Good for you. That matter is entirely irrelevant to the point being made.
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    Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Good for you. That matter is entirely irrelevant to the point being made.
    No, not really. Theissen's point is that Obama should have used the senator's letter as leverage to get a better deal than the deal that he hasn't seen. Obviously, he's an idiot.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Yeah, almost as amazing as all those conservatives wetting themselves over Netanyahu and Putin as they turn their back on their own country just to spite one black man in the WH.
    So Netanyahu spoke to Congress and Putin invaded the Ukraine because they are racist?

    Wasn't Obama going to be more 'flexible' with Putin after the last election? What was that all about?

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    Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    No, not really. Theissen's point is that Obama should have used the senator's letter as leverage to get a better deal than the deal that he hasn't seen. Obviously, he's an idiot.
    That is not Theissen's point. The passage that concerns you so much is merely a minor subpoint in his larger message that these kinds of communications are neither unprecedented nor always unhelpful. His argument in fact demonstrates considerable experience and sophistication.
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    Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership [W:251]

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    You fail to see the difference between being wrong and not acting on it and being wrong and invading a sovereign nation costing us 5000 lives and trillions of dollars. Trust me there is a HUGE difference. Not one of those Democrats called for or planned an invasion of Iraq. They knew better.
    So they were just making noises but had no strategy?

    Not much has changed then.

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    Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Is that someone trying to sabotage US foreign policy because he hates his president more than he loves his country? I really have no idea what you're talking about.
    Which US foreign policy do you have in mind? I doubt Obama even has a foreign policy, but correct me if I'm wrong.

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    Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    That is not Theissen's point. The passage that concerns you so much is merely a minor subpoint in his larger message that these kinds of communications are neither unprecedented nor always unhelpful. His argument in fact demonstrates considerable experience and sophistication.
    I realize that. I'm not taking issue with his larger point. I'm taking issue with his lesser point.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    I realize that. I'm not taking issue with his larger point. I'm taking issue with his lesser point.
    Which remains valid as well.
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