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    Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    Nobody in this thread has any idea what is in the agreement yet want to undermine and attack it because....well Obama.

    well.....

    lets see

    first we had obamacare.....we had to pass it to find out what was in it

    recently we had the fcc ruling on the internet.....again so secretive....no one allowed to know anything about it

    do you understand the word "trust?"

    right now, i dont trust Obama at all.....many are just like me

    he has made his mistakes with Israel...and now he is possibly giving its biggest enemy nukes?

    pardon us if we arent just quiet, and asking for more.....

    there are so many things i dont like about this president.....but probably tops on my list

    "my administration will be the most transparent in the history of the office" or something very similar to that

    really.....transparent? and now you just expect us to shut up and let him negotiate?

    really? are you that freaking naive?
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    Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    IOW, you believe Netanyahu's lie that the deal being negotiated by the P5+1 paves the way to Iranian nuclear weapons?!?!
    and you believe they need Nuclear power for anything else?.... now thats funny stuff

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    Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

    Quote Originally Posted by ProgressivPower View Post
    For most law abiding Americans, Obama "earned" their trust TWICE: Once in November 2008 and again in November 2012.

    From day one the GOP has moved in fascistic-style goose step fashion to obstruct any initiatives taken by this duly elected President -and the people and nation be damned! The GOP has indeed long ago now transgressed mere civility or respect for the office: starting with the outrageously improper shouting out of "You Lie!" while a president addresses congress , a countless litany of cheap personal attacks; repeatedly shutting down the government of the United States and playing chicken with the nation's "good faith and credit"....to now the unprecedented invitation to a foreign leader to criticize the president's foreign policy on the floor of the House AND, even more despicably sending an open letter to a foreign government designed to undermine the president's constitutional right to practice diplomacy......can you imagine what would have happened if the Democrats had done such a thing to a Republican president?!

    What ever happened to "Politics stops at the waters edge." ????

    For well over fifty years now the GOP has consistently been on the wrong side of history: wrong about Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, Minimum Wage, GI Bill, Unemployment , Civil Rights (voter suppression etc.) , Women's Rights, LGBT Rights, Healthcare, etc. ad nauseam....their behavior during the Obama Administration adds yet another tawdry, embarrassingly unpatriotic chapter to their already soiled legacy ....."Party of Lincoln", indeed. History will not look fondly upon their destructive, border-line treasonous behavior.

    These Republicans are indeed a disgrace to the federal government which they so, ironically, despise.....and have engaged in a deliberate attempt to undermine sensitive diplomatic negotiations with very high stakes: some , including myself would indeed call it treason....and that is precisely what the GOP would call it were the shoe on the other foot.
    Over the past six plus years now, the GOP has wrought far more destruction to this nation than Bin Laden, himself, could have ever imagined possible.

    If Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt or even Ike could see today's Republican Party, they would never stop vomiting.


    Propaganda. And bull****. Winning an election with less than 5% plurality is NOT winning anyone's "trust". It is proof of one thing...his star making image machinery was better financed than the other guy. Period. To extend that to the claim of political sainthood is misleading in the extreme. He lost their "trust" in 2010 when he surrendered his clear majority and then got re-elected by one of the thinnest margins on a lie...."If you lie your plan, you can keep your plan...."

    He has since lost all control in congress, his "enemies" and has a legacy already..

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wc72edn6lI0

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqKnVr3I9q8

    Claiming Obama has the trust of the American people is like saying Charlie Manson is kind to animals.....


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    Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

    Quote Originally Posted by Kushinator View Post
    If the guy shat jobs out of his ass, you and your crew would still complain that the pay stinks. There is nothing this President can or could do that would garner bipartisan support.

    Why?

    Because he won... twice.
    LOL!! Now THAT was funny!!

    Heck, if Obama shat jobs out of his ass I wouldn't complain...but I WOULD be amazed that he was actually able to do something constructive...especially by shatting. I'm guessing a whole lot of Americans would be amazed right along with me, given his job approval numbers.
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    Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

    Quote Originally Posted by gdgyva View Post
    right now, i dont trust Obama at all.....many are just like me
    Right now?

    Hilarious!
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    Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

    Quote Originally Posted by gdgyva View Post
    well.....

    lets see

    first we had obamacare.....we had to pass it to find out what was in it

    recently we had the fcc ruling on the internet.....again so secretive....no one allowed to know anything about it

    do you understand the word "trust?"

    right now, i dont trust Obama at all.....many are just like me

    he has made his mistakes with Israel...and now he is possibly giving its biggest enemy nukes?

    pardon us if we arent just quiet, and asking for more.....

    there are so many things i dont like about this president.....but probably tops on my list

    "my administration will be the most transparent in the history of the office" or something very similar to that

    really.....transparent? and now you just expect us to shut up and let him negotiate?

    really? are you that freaking naive?
    I'm sorry but this "lack of trust"
    stems from the ACA which passed through Congress and faced Supreme Court Scrutiny
    the FCC ruling (which formerly...before broadband the internet was covered under)
    and I don't agree with your "giving nukes". I'm not sure how an agreement to stop the nuclear program is giving someone nukes.

    It's okay though, I have absolutely no trust Congress led by the Republicans can do anything besides make statement votes on how much they hate the President.
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    Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    So an agreement with the intent of stopping Iran from gaining nuclear weapons assists and encourages them in gaining nuclear weapons? This may become a security council resolution with all major world powers agreeing to it.


    As for Executive agreements...George W Bush was going to use an Executive Agreement to commit US troops to Iraq long term, Executive agreements have been used to commit us to the protection of nations (Eisenhower and Spain)...which means of course if attacked we go to war on their behalf.

    Executive agreements have a long history of being used for some major foreign policy decisions.


    Please stay with the facts...

    The "agreement" which has been REJECTED by Iran, Britain, Canada, France and NATO, does not in any way try to stop "Iran from gaining nuclear weapons..."


    The reason it has been rejected is because it only DELAYS production of nuclear bombs for ten years.......

    you can't claim honesty and trust when you mislead ..
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    Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Gee, imagine admiring the strength and determination of a leader of a US ally. Oh, the shame. I wonder how many admired Churchill during Roosevelt's Presidency.
    That's like saying Obama is weak president and then complaining he has too much power.



    GOP is turning into party of schizoids.

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    Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    Yeah...was talking about the deal with Iran. Granted...non-binding vs binding isn't exactly clear because it may become a legally binding Security Council Resolution...but, it's a non-binding agreement.
    well, yeah..I suppose it really has no choice but to be non-binding of it isn't going to be ratified by the US...

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    Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    LOL!! Now THAT was funny!!

    Heck, if Obama shat jobs out of his ass I wouldn't complain...but I WOULD be amazed that he was actually able to do something constructive...especially by shatting. I'm guessing a whole lot of Americans would be amazed right along with me, given his job approval numbers.
    Job approval ratings swings on emotion. What does America say about its chief lawmaking body?
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