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    Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    As have former presidents in "non-binding" executive agreements.

    I don't have a problem with people not agreeing with executive agreements but this constant idea that executive power when being yielded by President Obama is some massive deviation from the norm or NOW it's a problem...really difficult to agree or even see that as anything other than partisanship.
    The US has never entered into an executive agreement over armaments. Furthermore, assisting or encouraging Iran to gain nuclear weapons puts us in violation of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty.

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    Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    nobody is talking about non-binding agreements....we're talking about this deal with Iran
    It appears that it will be, at least if the U.S’s expectations are borne out. In yesterday’spress briefing, State Department spokesperson Jen Psaki repeatedly referred to the parties negotiating “political commitments,” and described the prospective deal as “a nonbinding international arrangement, to be signed (if it is signed) by the United States, the United Kingdom, France, China, Russia, Germany, and Iran,” in which Iran will make “verifiable and enforceable commitments to adhere to . . . limits.”
    Yeah...was talking about the deal with Iran. Granted...non-binding vs binding isn't exactly clear because it may become a legally binding Security Council Resolution...but, it's a non-binding agreement.
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    Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

    Quote Originally Posted by Samhain View Post
    The US has never entered into an executive agreement over armaments. Furthermore, assisting or encouraging Iran to gain nuclear weapons puts us in violation of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty.
    IOW, you believe Netanyahu's lie that the deal being negotiated by the P5+1 paves the way to Iranian nuclear weapons?!?!
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    Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    No, not because Obama is Obama, more specifically, lack of trust in Obama. Something he's never bothered to earn, and now it haunts him.
    He made his own bed. now he gets to sleep in it.
    For most law abiding Americans, Obama "earned" their trust TWICE: Once in November 2008 and again in November 2012.

    From day one the GOP has moved in fascistic-style goose step fashion to obstruct any initiatives taken by this duly elected President -and the people and nation be damned! The GOP has indeed long ago now transgressed mere civility or respect for the office: starting with the outrageously improper shouting out of "You Lie!" while a president addresses congress , a countless litany of cheap personal attacks; repeatedly shutting down the government of the United States and playing chicken with the nation's "good faith and credit"....to now the unprecedented invitation to a foreign leader to criticize the president's foreign policy on the floor of the House AND, even more despicably sending an open letter to a foreign government designed to undermine the president's constitutional right to practice diplomacy......can you imagine what would have happened if the Democrats had done such a thing to a Republican president?!

    What ever happened to "Politics stops at the waters edge." ????

    For well over fifty years now the GOP has consistently been on the wrong side of history: wrong about Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, Minimum Wage, GI Bill, Unemployment , Civil Rights (voter suppression etc.) , Women's Rights, LGBT Rights, Healthcare, etc. ad nauseam....their behavior during the Obama Administration adds yet another tawdry, embarrassingly unpatriotic chapter to their already soiled legacy ....."Party of Lincoln", indeed. History will not look fondly upon their destructive, border-line treasonous behavior.

    These Republicans are indeed a disgrace to the federal government which they so, ironically, despise.....and have engaged in a deliberate attempt to undermine sensitive diplomatic negotiations with very high stakes: some , including myself would indeed call it treason....and that is precisely what the GOP would call it were the shoe on the other foot.
    Over the past six plus years now, the GOP has wrought far more destruction to this nation than Bin Laden, himself, could have ever imagined possible.

    If Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt or even Ike could see today's Republican Party, they would never stop vomiting.

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    Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

    Quote Originally Posted by ProgressivPower View Post
    For most law abiding Americans, Obama "earned" their trust TWICE: Once in November 2008 and again in November 2012.

    ~snipped the whining anti-GOP hyperbole, since it doesn't merit a reasoned response~
    Most??

    In 2008, Obama garnered 52.93% of the popular vote. In 2012 it was 51.01%. I don't think anyone would consider those numbers as constituting "most".
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    Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    No, not because Obama is Obama, more specifically, lack of trust in Obama. Something he's never bothered to earn, and now it haunts him.
    He made his own bed. now he gets to sleep in it.
    If the guy shat jobs out of his ass, you and your crew would still complain that the pay stinks. There is nothing this President can or could do that would garner bipartisan support.

    Why?

    Because he won... twice.
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    Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

    Quote Originally Posted by Samhain View Post
    The US has never entered into an executive agreement over armaments. Furthermore, assisting or encouraging Iran to gain nuclear weapons puts us in violation of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty.
    So an agreement with the intent of stopping Iran from gaining nuclear weapons assists and encourages them in gaining nuclear weapons? This may become a security council resolution with all major world powers agreeing to it.


    As for Executive agreements...George W Bush was going to use an Executive Agreement to commit US troops to Iraq long term, Executive agreements have been used to commit us to the protection of nations (Eisenhower and Spain)...which means of course if attacked we go to war on their behalf.

    Executive agreements have a long history of being used for some major foreign policy decisions.
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    Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    Traitors? Treason is a strong accusation, I am not sure you know what it means.

    I'll bet the 47 traitors don't know what it means, either.
    Last edited by Moot; 03-11-15 at 02:34 PM.

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    Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    And you don't either, and despite numerous cases fo "find out after it's happened" failures you're still throwing in with those that deceive and lie as a matter of course.
    The negotiation is still in process and taking place. It includes 6 world powers and Iran. Anything the President says will be inaccurate until the agreement is finalized.
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    Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    ...and supposedly he doesn't need Congress to lift sanctions that were levied by legislation.. and he doesn't need congress to enact immigration policy not found in law... etc etc etc.

    according to Obama supporters, Congress is seemingly unnecessary on the whole.... all hail the King!
    can't 'thank' in the normal way.,....but that is right on.

    In fact, Obama's cancellation of the Keystone may be unconstitutional as it appears to violate an international trade agreement about guaranteed supply of Canadian oil in exchange for access to warm water ports. Congress has the power to "advise and consent" on such matters, which means they must be "ratified" by congress before taking effect.

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