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    Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

    Quote Originally Posted by 1750Texan View Post
    There is no advise and consent requirement on this agreement. President Obama is not appointing anyone to a position nor is he drafting a treaty.

    Congress does not even have to worry their pretty little heads.
    Which means Republicans are correct that its an agreement that can be terminated at anytime.

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    Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Yep, that is way different than Obama saying "reform" the immigration law so that it will match my enforcement plan, meanwhile I will just pretend that you did.
    Uhh...I see to remember an immigration reform bill passing the Senate and not allowed on the floor to be voted on in the House....and based on all the talk and up or down vote would of meant passage of the bill.

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    Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    There was just another post similar to this posted.

    I'll summarize what I posted in that thread: Obama has gone out of his way to thumb his nose at Congress and Republicans in general. "I won" and "I have a pen and phone" are just a sample of those astoundingly arrogant statements. Now Congress shows they have a pen and phone as well. Obama could have invited Congress to oversee (which is Congress' duty by the way) such international deals but he cut them out. Now he gets the slap of a cold fish in the face and doesn't like it. The moral of the story to Obama: Actions have consequences. Are you surprised? Really?
    So you accept this precedent then? If a Republican president is in difficult negotiations with a foreign leader you'll be perfectly happy if a Democrat-controlled congress writes that leader to say, "Oh, hey, by the way, no matter what you guys arrive at we're not going to ratify it because our president doesn't have the authority to negotiate with you...wacka wacka!"

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    Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership - Bloomberg Politics

    President Obama: "It's somewhat ironic seeing some members of Congress wanting to make common cause with the hardliners in Iran..... It's an unlikely coalition."

    Interesting. Seems to me, the President distorts the issue for political gain and is subtly trying to claim that Republicans are fraternizing with the enemy or perhaps even treasonous. And yet no reaction or condemnation from Democrats or their friends in the media. Rudy Guilliani states that he believes that President Obama doesn't love his country and all hell breaks lose, the full force of the Democrat party and their media puppets attacking with all force. But when the shoe is on the other foot, again the attack is on the Republican party and the Democrat media protects their saviour and master.

    Interesting. Also, isn't President Obama trying to 'make common cause with the hardliners in Iran" through the deal negotiations he's involved in?
    well, I dunno... but I can say with confidence that I am thoroughly entertained by all of this.

    as for my opinion on it all.. well, i think the GOP is throwing shots across Obamas bow because he's pretty much left them with little choice but to do so.
    in Obama's defense, the GOP hasn't been very.. accommodating.
    in the GOP's defense, Obama hasn't been very.. .accommodating...either.
    I don't particularly agree with what any of them are doing .. but the common rules of engagement are off the table, and it's entertaining as all hell.

    hopefully all of this bull**** will lead people way from the two major parties, but that's a pipe dream... people will still condone the behavior of their side, castigate the behavior of the other, and vote as they always have.

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    Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    So you accept this precedent then? If a Republican president is in difficult negotiations with a foreign leader you'll be perfectly happy if a Democrat-controlled congress writes that leader to say, "Oh, hey, by the way, no matter what you guys arrive at we're not going to ratify it because our president doesn't have the authority to negotiate with you...wacka wacka!"


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    Last edited by Samhain; 03-10-15 at 11:38 AM.

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    Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    Do we really have to go over the disasters of Republican administrations...from Iran Contra to the war in Iraq....the Republican party has been horrendous in foreign policy and the majority of Obama's Mid East problems are a result of those mistakes.
    You DO know how stupid you look every time you spew "but the republicans!!! but the republicans!!!"

    It doesnt minimize the failings of this administration in the least and only serves to make both the administration and you look ever increasingly impotent.

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    Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

    Quote Originally Posted by Samhain View Post
    Feel free to explain the picture.

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    Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    I have no trust in Republicans...not only do they lie but they try and re-write history



    Mitch McConnell with a blatant lie...it was the Obama administration in 2012 that went around getting support for sanctions against Iran. It was Republicans that were talking red-line and military options.
    That you hold the GOP in such regard and not the democrat party with the same says everything anyone would ever need to know about you.

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    Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    So you accept this precedent then? If a Republican president is in difficult negotiations with a foreign leader you'll be perfectly happy if a Democrat-controlled congress writes that leader to say, "Oh, hey, by the way, no matter what you guys arrive at we're not going to ratify it because our president doesn't have the authority to negotiate with you...wacka wacka!"
    it won't be as entertaining the 2nd time it happens.... but yeah, turnabout is fair play in my book.

    the American people are tired of all this bull****... but I don't see anyone coming down the pipe with the leadership skills to end it.

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    Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Feel free to explain the picture.
    CONGRESS - LETTER TO NICARAGUA - 'DEAR COMANDANTE' - NYTimes.com

    The picture is John Kerry and Tom Harkin visiting with the Nicaraguan Sandinista communists to undermine Reagan.

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