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    Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    A Democratic controlled congress has never acted the same way Republican led congresses have.
    The closest was when Democrats had power under George W Bush but the common variable here? A Republican led Congress.
    Not true.
    David Bonior, Nancy Pelosi, Tip O'Neill, Teddy Kennedy ... not to mention ex-POTUS Carter
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    Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

    Quote Originally Posted by bubbabgone View Post
    Not true.
    David Bonior, Nancy Pelosi, Tip O'Neill, Teddy Kennedy ... not to mention ex-POTUS Carter
    What do you mean by that? There's a very large difference from disagreeing with a President and what is currently occurring.
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    Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership [W:251]

    Quote Originally Posted by SenorXm/Sirius View Post
    Yep. The extremists in the GOP and their friends in the conservative entertainment media will never pass up the chance to throw red meat to their foaming at the mouths base. And their base eats it up every single time. But as I pointed out earlier as long as the extremists in the GOP and the conservative entertainment media keeps the base agitated all the time, and about every issue, that prohibits the GOP from being a serious political party anymore.

    The GOP has become like the boy who cried wolf. About every single issue.
    Given the latest Hillary scandal it is obvious that there is plenty of substance to the Republicans investigations.

    Now a bunch of Proggressives want these GOP Congressmen prosecuted...LOL !

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    Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    Other than actually voting on an agreement Congress has the power to pass

    -resolutions and policy statement
    -legislative directives
    -legislative restrictions/funding denials

    they can also provide
    -informal advice
    -legislative pressure

    as well as exercise it's power of oversight.

    Congresses' that have different views than a President have been doing this for hundreds of years and it's worked out pretty well.
    none of this addressed what i was talking about.

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    Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership [W:251]

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    What do you mean by that? There's a very large difference from disagreeing with a President and what is currently occurring.
    Its not the first time Politicians have gone around the President to communicate with our enemies.

    Didn't Pelosi gp around Bush to communicate with Assad in Syria ?

    And Ted Kennedy went around Reagan to communicate with Ortega ?

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    Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    none of this addressed what i was talking about.
    Yes it does...those are all routes Congress can go in regards to foreign policy beyond an up or down vote on a treaty.
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    Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    A Democratic controlled congress has never acted the same way Republican led congresses have. The closest was when Democrats had power under George W Bush but the common variable here? A Republican led Congress.
    yes of course... evil republicans, saintly Democrats.. .same old bull**** song and dance.

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    Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    yes of course... evil republicans, saintly Democrats.. .same old bull**** song and dance.
    No...I never said that, that's not accurate, but neither is the typical false equivalency thrown out.
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    Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership [W:251]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Its not the first time Politicians have gone around the President to communicate with our enemies.

    Didn't Pelosi gp around Bush to communicate with Assad in Syria ?

    And Ted Kennedy went around Reagan to communicate with Ortega ?
    Jim Wright met with Ortega and a Republican Senator suggested it violated the Logan act and Reagan attacked Wright....rightly.

    But...I'll just put there here....from Thomas Mann from the Brookings Institute

    “There have been many bitter battles” over the years, said Thomas Mann, a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution. But, he added, the tone of Monday’s letter to Iran from 47 Republican Senators may be in a league of its own.
    “What’s unusual about this — but completely in tune with what’s happened in Washington in recent years — is the contempt with which it treats the president,” Mann said.
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    Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    Yes it does...those are all routes Congress can go in regards to foreign policy beyond an up or down vote on a treaty.
    well ok then..I guess we'll just have to deal with the fact that the Senate won't be playing a role in this until years after it's a done deal...just as Obama has declared will be the case.

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