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    Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    I was quite amazed at this statement and, at first, I simply dismissed it as the ravings of a lefty. But, being a fair-minded person, I decided to do a little research. This is what I found.

    There WAS a poll.



    However, since the poll says something entirely different than the outrageous blather you spewed, it seems that my first inclination was accurate. Your post is hereby dismissed as the ravings of a lefty.


    btw, I didn't do similar research on Netanyahu, so I suppose your ravings might not extend to him. But, unless you provide your own research to prove your point, I'll include him in with your idiocy about Putin.
    Actually the poll supports what I said....so thanks for proving my point....now go get me a cup of coffee.

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    Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

    They're afraid that they're now being interpreted to undercut the President? Yeah, because that's what they were doing, only now they're rightfully being called out on their horrible decision.

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    Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Actually the poll supports what I said....so thanks for proving my point....now go get me a cup of coffee.
    The poll says nothing about anyone wanting Putin to be their leader instead of Obama...in fact, Putin received quite unfavorable ratings from Americans.


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    Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

    Another spin article from the left, but poor spin, at that.

    I find it curious you didn't include this part of the article in your quote:

    However, while some on the Republican side are now rethinking the wisdom of sending a letter, none of the 47 Republican signatories are recanting their support for it or signaling an intent to do so.
    Kind of blows that lead sentence from the article right out of the water, doesn't it?

    Also, the only two Republican Congressmen the article quoted were Republicans who DIDN'T sign the letter and that aide wasn't so much as saying it was a bad idea, but was pointing out the tactics of the Obama administration.

    But hey...it's the Daily Beast, after all.
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    Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    The poll says nothing about anyone wanting Putin to be their leader instead of Obama...in fact, Putin received quite unfavorable ratings from Americans.


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    It doesn't seem to matter who it is just as long as it's a foreign leader with dictator like qualities and favors pre-emptive war...



    "... Don't you wish we had Benjamin Netanyahu as president, instead of Obama? I took a sampling among my friends- all smart, educated business owners. Men of substance. Every one of them said if they had a choice, they'd choose Bibi over Obama for president…of the United States....."

    Bibi for President!


    "Can we get like Netanyahu, or like Putin in for 48 hours, you know, head of the United States?” - Kimberly Guilfoyle, Fox News cohost.


    Conservatives Go Gaga For Bibi As They Trip Over Themselves Praising Netanyahu's Speech





    "...There is some division among Republicans who cannot quite decide if they want to fight Vladimir Putin or fornicate with the Russian, but one thing is clear; conservatives think he is a “real leader” and lust for a Republican president like Putin...."

    Republicans Have Found Their Dream Leader and His Name Is Vladimir Putin



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    Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    It doesn't seem to matter who it is just as long as it's a foreign leader with dictator like qualities and favors pre-emptive war...



    "... Don't you wish we had Benjamin Netanyahu as president, instead of Obama? I took a sampling among my friends- all smart, educated business owners. Men of substance. Every one of them said if they had a choice, they'd choose Bibi over Obama for president…of the United States....."

    Bibi for President!


    "Can we get like Netanyahu, or like Putin in for 48 hours, you know, head of the United States?” - Kimberly Guilfoyle, Fox News cohost.


    Conservatives Go Gaga For Bibi As They Trip Over Themselves Praising Netanyahu's Speech





    "...There is some division among Republicans who cannot quite decide if they want to fight Vladimir Putin or fornicate with the Russian, but one thing is clear; conservatives think he is a “real leader” and lust for a Republican president like Putin...."

    Republicans Have Found Their Dream Leader and His Name Is Vladimir Putin



    "I wish that Bibi was our President."
    - Ann Coulter
    I don't know who Root or Guilfoyle are, but I've heard of Coulter. Do you somehow equate three people to "a lot"?

    btw, you really should stay away from that politicususa place. The stuff they shovel into you will rot your brain.
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    Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    It doesn't seem to matter who it is just as long as it's a foreign leader with dictator like qualities and favors pre-emptive war...



    "... Don't you wish we had Benjamin Netanyahu as president, instead of Obama? I took a sampling among my friends- all smart, educated business owners. Men of substance. Every one of them said if they had a choice, they'd choose Bibi over Obama for president…of the United States....."

    Bibi for President!


    "Can we get like Netanyahu, or like Putin in for 48 hours, you know, head of the United States?” - Kimberly Guilfoyle, Fox News cohost.


    Conservatives Go Gaga For Bibi As They Trip Over Themselves Praising Netanyahu's Speech





    "...There is some division among Republicans who cannot quite decide if they want to fight Vladimir Putin or fornicate with the Russian, but one thing is clear; conservatives think he is a “real leader” and lust for a Republican president like Putin...."

    Republicans Have Found Their Dream Leader and His Name Is Vladimir Putin



    "I wish that Bibi was our President."
    - Ann Coulter
    Gee, imagine admiring the strength and determination of a leader of a US ally. Oh, the shame. I wonder how many admired Churchill during Roosevelt's Presidency.
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    Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    I agree... but there's one wrinkle.

    the Obama administration has already declared, before the election, he would be bypassing congress on not only the deal, but the sanctions as well.
    the Senate wants to play their part in this deal...they've simply been refused.
    Had the Senate informed the President that it would still play its role rather than sending a letter to a hostile state, I don't think that would have been unreasonable. Afterward, if an agreement is reached and the Senate chose to carry out a vote, again that would be entirely reasonable and not inconsistent with its role vis-a-vis such agreements. That's not what was done and it does not promote an environment conducive to diplomatic efforts.

    To what specific terms are the Senators objecting? None. No such terms exist, because there is no agreement right now. Had an agreement been reached and had the Senate found it defective, then that would be the appropriate time for the Senate to act. Moreover, the Senate could well express its position i.e., by a sense of the Senate resolution or other legislation even if the President did not submit the agreement to the Senate for its consideration.

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    Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    Had the Senate informed the President that it would still play its role rather than sending a letter to a hostile state, I don't think that would have been unreasonable. Afterward, if an agreement is reached and the Senate chose to carry out a vote, again that would be entirely reasonable and not inconsistent with its role vis-a-vis such agreements. That's not what was done and it does not promote an environment conducive to diplomatic efforts.

    To what specific terms are the Senators objecting? None. No such terms exist, because there is no agreement right now. Had an agreement been reached and had the Senate found it defective, then that would be the appropriate time for the Senate to act. Moreover, the Senate could well express its position i.e., by a sense of the Senate resolution or other legislation even if the President did not submit the agreement to the Senate for its consideration.
    The Senate has essentially stated that any agreement, no matter what it is, will be deemed unacceptable. It is a clear attempt to undermine the president, no matter the outcome.
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    Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

    Face it...

    Obama could have avoided all this conflict he's generated since the last election if he had only faced reality instead of deciding to work against the wishes of Congress from the get-go. I think it's already been said in this thread, but "you reap what you sow".
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