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    Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    No, not because Obama is Obama, more specifically, lack of trust in Obama. Something he's never bothered to earn, and now it haunts him.
    He made his own bed. now he gets to sleep in it.
    Republicans don't trust Obama...but they don't trust any Democratic President.
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    Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    Nobody in this thread has any idea what is in the agreement yet want to undermine and attack it because....well Obama.
    Yep. The extremists in the GOP and their friends in the conservative entertainment media will never pass up the chance to throw red meat to their foaming at the mouths base. And their base eats it up every single time. But as I pointed out earlier as long as the extremists in the GOP and the conservative entertainment media keeps the base agitated all the time, and about every issue, that prohibits the GOP from being a serious political party anymore.

    The GOP has become like the boy who cried wolf. About every single issue.
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    Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

    Quote Originally Posted by Crovax View Post
    Maybe thats because even Obama has said that we wont know what is in the agreement until it has already been made. Yay transparency
    It's an agreement, it requires negotiation. You don't walk into the meeting dropping an agreement saying "this or nothing". That's an ultimatum.
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    Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Thats a good point. 'Obama' gave us a piece of **** healthcare law that is so bad even HE wont fully administer it and that was so convoluted the democrats (and their mindless muppets) voted for it and supported it without so much as bothering to read it. People liek...say...YOU are smart enough to understand that Iran has PROVEN they cant be trusted and the president is telling us not to worry about it...they will pass something and then let the American people know what it is after the fact.

    So yeah...pardon me for not trusting them...or him. And considering their foreign policy history and the nightmare that the ME became after Obama's support of the celebrated 'Arab Spring' and their stupidity over that little 'JV" team known as ISIS, you will again have to forgive us for being a bit apprehensive.
    Do we really have to go over the disasters of Republican administrations...from Iran Contra to the war in Iraq....the Republican party has been horrendous in foreign policy and the majority of Obama's Mid East problems are a result of those mistakes.
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    Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    There was just another post similar to this posted.

    I'll summarize what I posted in that thread: Obama has gone out of his way to thumb his nose at Congress and Republicans in general. "I won" and "I have a pen and phone" are just a sample of those astoundingly arrogant statements. Now Congress shows they have a pen and phone as well. Obama could have invited Congress to oversee (which is Congress' duty by the way) such international deals but he cut them out. Now he gets the slap of a cold fish in the face and doesn't like it. The moral of the story to Obama: Actions have consequences. Are you surprised? Really?
    Yep, Obama thinks "advice and consent" really means only rubber stamp consent to his "mandate" and that the law of the land is merely a guideline to be amended by "prosecutorial discretion" into what he wishes it to be.
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    Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

    Quote Originally Posted by Crovax View Post
    Maybe thats because even Obama has said that we wont know what is in the agreement until it has already been made. Yay transparency
    That is usually how agreements are made. Until the hand-shake is done...everything is on the tabe.

    Obama has never rejected the leadership of Congress to meet with him and structure a position. Never Have I heard either Boehner or McConnell say they requested to meet with the President on this issue and were denied.

    Congress cares so much about this agreement that they are sunning themselves at Spring Break at the moment. Don't you wish they even cared as much as you???

    Debt limit is reached March 16th. Who cares. Bashing Obama is fun and Congress is out to lunch.


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    Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Thats a good point. 'Obama' gave us a piece of **** healthcare law that is so bad even HE wont fully administer it and that was so convoluted the democrats (and their mindless muppets) voted for it and supported it without so much as bothering to read it. People liek...say...YOU are smart enough to understand that Iran has PROVEN they cant be trusted and the president is telling us not to worry about it...they will pass something and then let the American people know what it is after the fact.

    So yeah...pardon me for not trusting them...or him. And considering their foreign policy history and the nightmare that the ME became after Obama's support of the celebrated 'Arab Spring' and their stupidity over that little 'JV" team known as ISIS, you will again have to forgive us for being a bit apprehensive.
    I have no trust in Republicans...not only do they lie but they try and re-write history

    "Remember, it was Congress that helped bring Iran to the table by putting sanctions in place, actually against — against — the wishes of the administration. Congress was right then and Congress and the American people need to be a part of this discussion, too. That's why I'm acting to place this bipartisan bill on the legislative calendar ... Congress must be involved in reviewing and voting on an agreement reached between this White House and Iran, and this bill would ensure that that happens."
    Mitch McConnell with a blatant lie...it was the Obama administration in 2012 that went around getting support for sanctions against Iran. It was Republicans that were talking red-line and military options.
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    Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    It's an agreement, it requires negotiation. You don't walk into the meeting dropping an agreement saying "this or nothing". That's an ultimatum.
    Yep, that is way different than Obama saying "reform" the immigration law so that it will match my enforcement plan, meanwhile I will just pretend that you did.
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    Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Yep, Obama thinks "advice and consent" really means only rubber stamp consent to his "mandate" and that the law of the land is merely a guideline to be amended by "prosecutorial discretion" into what he wishes it to be.
    There is no advise and consent requirement on this agreement. President Obama is not appointing anyone to a position nor is he drafting a treaty.

    Congress does not even have to worry their pretty little heads.


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    Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership - Bloomberg Politics

    President Obama: "It's somewhat ironic seeing some members of Congress wanting to make common cause with the hardliners in Iran..... It's an unlikely coalition."

    Interesting. Seems to me, the President distorts the issue for political gain and is subtly trying to claim that Republicans are fraternizing with the enemy or perhaps even treasonous. And yet no reaction or condemnation from Democrats or their friends in the media. Rudy Guilliani states that he believes that President Obama doesn't love his country and all hell breaks lose, the full force of the Democrat party and their media puppets attacking with all force. But when the shoe is on the other foot, again the attack is on the Republican party and the Democrat media protects their saviour and master.

    Interesting. Also, isn't President Obama trying to 'make common cause with the hardliners in Iran" through the deal negotiations he's involved in?
    I will admit that I only heard about this situation for the first time yesterday, so I don't know the full scope of the situation at this point, but if in fact 47 Republican Congresspeople wrote a letter and supported a measure to warn Iran to not work with Obama, then yes there is a problem. I'm going to try to tread lightly here, however, because I don't know the full story at this point. I felt the need to respond to this, however, because I know it's fun to pretend that every Democrat/liberal/socialist/progressive supports everything that Obama has ever done, but that is 100% false. I voted for him both times, I don't regret that, but I also definitely do not support everything that he has done. There are plenty of actions that he has taken that I believe are not helpful to this country.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    There was just another post similar to this posted.

    I'll summarize what I posted in that thread: Obama has gone out of his way to thumb his nose at Congress and Republicans in general. "I won" and "I have a pen and phone" are just a sample of those astoundingly arrogant statements. Now Congress shows they have a pen and phone as well. Obama could have invited Congress to oversee (which is Congress' duty by the way) such international deals but he cut them out. Now he gets the slap of a cold fish in the face and doesn't like it. The moral of the story to Obama: Actions have consequences. Are you surprised? Really?
    I'm just curious. Do you believe that Republicans have gone above and beyond, throughout Obama's entire presidency, to try to work with him? Do you believe that the only reason why there is friction within his presidency is because he alone is refusing to be bipartisan? There haven't been any situations at all where Republicans have purposefully shown evidence of being 100% partisan and purposefully refusing to work with him to come to an agreement on an issue?

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    No, not because Obama is Obama, more specifically, lack of trust in Obama. Something he's never bothered to earn, and now it haunts him.
    He made his own bed. now he gets to sleep in it.
    See, I don't agree with this statement. I believe that he has bothered to earn trust but that people very heavily against him ever having won the Presidency have never tried to accept it. I get it. This country is extraordinarily partisan in nature these days, but I feel the need to call bull**** on the claim that Obama has never tried to work with Republicans and gain trust within this country. I digress, however, seeing as though this post is about this letter that was written.
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