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    Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    To their credit (kind of) conservatives here know that congress screwed up big, which is why they're trying incessantly to deflect their action by saying, "But...Obama hasn't earned our trust!" as if that had any bearing on scuttling a crucial deal to prevent an unfriendly country from attaining the bomb and thus destabilizing the region even more. Rest assured, Iran will walk out of the negotiations now, they'll get the bomb, and Republicans will own it. The conservatives here know deep down that the Republicans ****ed up royally, and that this is something they never would have supported until Obama became their only reason for living and fighting.

    This has gone far beyond "derangement" and has now officially escalated to full blown sickness.
    Greetings, Cardinal.

    Obama is attempting to prevent Iran from getting a bomb? Really? They won't even tell anyone where all their underground facilities are! They haven't exactly been the most trustworthy country we've ever dealt with, and they wholeheartedly fund terrorism, and we are supposed to trust them? So far it appears they want to set the terms of any agreement that is made, or there's no deal. Is that in our best interest?

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    Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

    Quote Originally Posted by Mithros View Post
    And which legislative duty is this?
    Article II, Section 2, Clause 2 [The President] shall have Power, by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, to make Treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators present concur...

    If Obama wasn't a bung-hole and actually worked with the Congress they wouldn't have to remind foreign leaders how the US treaty process is supposed to work.
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    Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

    Quote Originally Posted by 1750Texan View Post
    That is usually how agreements are made. Until the hand-shake is done...everything is on the tabe.

    Obama has never rejected the leadership of Congress to meet with him and structure a position. Never Have I heard either Boehner or McConnell say they requested to meet with the President on this issue and were denied.

    Congress cares so much about this agreement that they are sunning themselves at Spring Break at the moment. Don't you wish they even cared as much as you???

    Debt limit is reached March 16th. Who cares. Bashing Obama is fun and Congress is out to lunch.
    stop right there, there's a whole series of immigration orders that run contrary to this statement, he is blocking bills meant to help the Middle class, you heard of the O&C Timber bill? Obama has threatened to veto that several times, he has refused to budge a pipeline that has been "Studied" for over a decade. this guy does not respect congress period.
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    Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    You mean because of their anti Israel barking?
    that's certainly part of it... but my opinion rests primarily on the basis of their Islamic theocracy

    I do agree they are interested in self preservation( as anyone is)... but I just don't trust a theocracy.. especially one so hateful.

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    Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    all things being equal, i'd do exactly what i'm doing now.
    ( I also know you haven't been reading my posts on the matter, or you wouldn't be taking this road)
    I'd laugh at hyperpartisans, throw in facts to stymie the more obtuse and absurd among us... and generally enjoy the entertainment value of it all.

    you haven't known me for very long.. ask those who have.. I relish the entertainment of political theater far more than picking sides and grasping onto partisan coattails....it's the only thing that keeps me interested in politics ( not policy, politics)
    It is a dumb, and wrong thing to do, whichever side does it..

    Hyperpartisans...I laugh at the use that word.
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    Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Greetings, Cardinal.

    Obama is attempting to prevent Iran from getting a bomb? Really? They won't even tell anyone where all their underground facilities are! They haven't exactly been the most trustworthy country we've ever dealt with, and they wholeheartedly fund terrorism, and we are supposed to trust them? So far it appears they want to set the terms of any agreement that is made, or there's no deal. Is that in our best interest?
    Hey there Polgara, if support for terrorism is the yardstick of trust, it would seem that Iran wouldn't be able to trust the US to keep their end of any deal, too!
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    So a nuclear Iran isn't funny, but anything that Republicans do that cause a nuclear Iran, especially if they can undermine Obama in the process, is hilarious. Great.
    that's a pretty odd opinion coming from an ardent Obama supporter....why do you believe it's hilarious?

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    Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

    Quote Originally Posted by Samhain View Post
    Based on the White House's own statements, nobody will until its agreed.

    Mark Knoller: "WH says if nuke deal is reached with Iran it won't be a treaty subject to Senate ratification."

    So the Republicans are correct, it will be a deal between the current Executive branch and Iran, to be terminated at the descresion of future Executive branch leaders.
    UK, France, Germany, Greece are also part of the agreement with Iran. So if another US president decides to willy nilly break the agreement, it won't be just Iran that won't trust the US, it will also be our allies which in turn could have serious repercussions on US reputation and economy and the safety of Americans abroad especially US troops in the ME.
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    Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    Article II, Section 2, Clause 2 [The President] shall have Power, by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, to make Treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators present concur...

    If Obama wasn't a bung-hole and actually worked with the Congress they wouldn't have to remind foreign leaders how the US treaty process is supposed to work.
    They just keep settin 'em up and you keep knocking them down. I wonder what kind of country the US would be if everyone knew what was in the constitution?
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    Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    that's certainly part of it... but my opinion rests primarily on the basis of their Islamic theocracy

    I do agree they are interested in self preservation( as anyone is)... but I just don't trust a theocracy.. especially one so hateful.
    I can't see where Iran's FP, poses near the threat to global security that USFP does. And I would remind you that the US created the awful weapon you want to deny Iran, and to date is the only nuclear power to have used one (sorry, two) and on civilian targets no less. If Iran had the ability, they'd be telling the US to **** off, and who but the patronizing Americans could blame them?
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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