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    Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Keep in mind, Thrilla has already made it clear this is a hilarious joke to him. I guess a nuclear Iran is "funny" in conservative circles.
    Senior fellows at the Council on Foreign Relations think nuclear balance is a good thing!

    Why Iran Should Get the Bomb
    Nuclear Balancing Would Mean Stability

    Why Iran Should Get the Bomb | Foreign Affairs
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

    Quote Originally Posted by beefheart View Post
    If 47 democrat senators did this to Reagan, you'd be screaming and yelling at the top of your lungs and calling for hangings.
    nope, that's not my style....and i'm not a Reagan sycophant.

    tell me more fairy tales about "traitors" though, it's entertaining .... utter nonsense, but entertaining.

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    Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Keep in mind, Thrilla has already made it clear this is a hilarious joke to him. I guess a nuclear Iran is "funny" in conservative circles.
    a nuclear Iran isn't funny.... watching Obama sycophants freak out is, though.. as well as the whole political theater going on.
    it's incredibly entertaining.

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    Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    nope, that's not my style....and i'm not a Reagan sycophant.

    tell me more fairy tales about "traitors" though, it's entertaining .... utter nonsense, but entertaining.
    How would you act if 47 democrat senators decided to do this under a republican president?
    "Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it." George Santayana

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    Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Senior fellows at the Council on Foreign Relations think nuclear balance is a good thing!

    Why Iran Should Get the Bomb
    Nuclear Balancing Would Mean Stability

    Why Iran Should Get the Bomb | Foreign Affairs
    he makes a solid argument...though I don't completely share his view on the sanity of the Iranian regime

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    Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    he makes a solid argument...though I don't completely share his view on the sanity of the Iranian regime
    You mean because of their anti Israel barking?
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

    Quote Originally Posted by beefheart View Post
    How would you act if 47 democrat senators decided to do this under a republican president?
    all things being equal, i'd do exactly what i'm doing now.
    ( I also know you haven't been reading my posts on the matter, or you wouldn't be taking this road)
    I'd laugh at hyperpartisans, throw in facts to stymie the more obtuse and absurd among us... and generally enjoy the entertainment value of it all.

    you haven't known me for very long.. ask those who have.. I relish the entertainment of political theater far more than picking sides and grasping onto partisan coattails....it's the only thing that keeps me interested in politics ( not policy, politics)

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    Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    a nuclear Iran isn't funny.... watching Obama sycophants freak out is, though.. as well as the whole political theater going on.
    it's incredibly entertaining.
    So a nuclear Iran isn't funny, but anything that Republicans do that cause a nuclear Iran, especially if they can undermine Obama in the process, is hilarious. Great.

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    Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    *snip*
    We can't stop them, not without (1) feeding this massive movement of people and capital into the neo-Caliph insurgence, and (2) undermining our credibility in most of the significant foreign policy circles around the globe. Its ourselves who would be getting the breathing room from having to attend to yet another rogue state in an era where we need to start concerning ourselves with the growing economic and military capital of Great Powers.

    Secondly, unlike crime syndicate North Korea whose foreign interactions are limited to receiving charity, Iran has an actual shot at developing a significant presence in international business and finances. Once they have that position, taking a chance on making a nuke (which first requires kicking out inspectors) will discourage investment and produce new sanctions, probably raising opposition from their own people.

    The bottom line is that states with a large enough revenue base will almost inevitably obtain nuclear energy (and therefore the potential for nuclear weapons). Frankly, with the trends in military engineering, its not obvious to me that Iran obtaining a nuclear weapon 10-20 years from now will result in a serious alternation in the balance of power, at least as concerns their relationship to the United States and Israel. The situation with Sunni states might be a little different, but it seems the dynamics there are evolving into the sort the U.S. has with India vs. Pakistan.

    I'm almost entirely sure the leadership of Iran is aware that even if they make a nuclear weapon 10-20 years from now, it will have highly limited utility except in their security relations with rival Sunni states (where they will probably be better off pursuing conventional warfare capability anyway).
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    Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    Republicans don't trust Obama...but they don't trust any Democratic President.
    not true, I have feeling there was plenty of trust for Bill Clinton, Bill was willing to back off of touchy issues, Obama runs full steam ahead with what he wants.
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