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    Re: Univ. of Oklahoma severs ties with frat after racist chant

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    I wonder if this means that public universities can expel any student who says something offensive now.
    I thought they always could...
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Univ. of Oklahoma severs ties with frat after racist chant

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    So much deflection. Remember, there are now more instances of university students being racist with the ONLY thing in common being SAE. You can't wave that away and chuck it to some non-reason.
    Such instances occur all over the country and by many different fraternities and sororities:

    Frats Behaving Badly: 14 Examples Of Racist Parties, Terrible Pranks, Misogyny, And Just Being Bad

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    Re: Univ. of Oklahoma severs ties with frat after racist chant

    Well, the ACLU disagrees with the decision to expel the students, according to their official position on hate speech on campuses:

    Many universities, under pressure to respond to the concerns of those who are the objects of hate, have adopted codes or policies prohibiting speech that offends any group based on race, gender, ethnicity, religion or sexual orientation.

    That's the wrong response, well-meaning or not. The First Amendment to the United States Constitution protects speech no matter how offensive its content. Speech codes adopted by government-financed state colleges and universities amount to government censorship, in violation of the Constitution. And the ACLU believes that all campuses should adhere to First Amendment principles because academic freedom is a bedrock of education in a free society.


    https://www.aclu.org/free-speech/hate-speech-campus

    I wonder if they are going to take up the cause for these 2 guys.
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    Re: Univ. of Oklahoma severs ties with frat after racist chant

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    I thought they always could...
    Apparently they couldn't, according to everything I read. Interesting that the university did it anyway. SCOTUS has heard such cases and always ruled against the school. Hell, even the ACLU is against it.
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    Re: Univ. of Oklahoma severs ties with frat after racist chant

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    Univ. of Oklahoma severs ties with frat after racist chant



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    They're trying to fool people into believing that racism isn't part of this fraternity. It most certainly looks like it. It just took unquestionable video evidence and the school's money makers (athletes) leaving for them to take notice.
    well, it's good to boot these dudes down the road for their racist bull****.... but to extent this racism charge to the entire fraternity is a big ass stretch, even if there are a few incidents here and there.

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    Re: Univ. of Oklahoma severs ties with frat after racist chant

    The fraternity has a history and should lose it charter altogether. The university should not be allowed to expel the students, they have a right to hold whatever racist opinions they wish, to speak them.

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    Re: Univ. of Oklahoma severs ties with frat after racist chant

    I wonder what the motivation was of the person who surreptitiously recorded this idiocy and made it public



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    Re: Univ. of Oklahoma severs ties with frat after racist chant

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Interesting. I wonder if the students can bring the University to court now. I saw this earlier (it was linked from Wapo):
    No doubt they can sue the University, but I don't see why they would want to subject themselves to more media attention, or why they would want to return to the U. Time to crawl into a little hole and hide for a couple of years.

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    Re: Univ. of Oklahoma severs ties with frat after racist chant

    I like how conservatives always take a position that, if not tacitly supporting racists, certainly oppose any steps to criticize, denounce or punish racists.

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    Re: Univ. of Oklahoma severs ties with frat after racist chant

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    No doubt they can sue the University, but I don't see why they would want to subject themselves to more media attention, or why they would want to return to the U. Time to crawl into a little hole and hide for a couple of years.
    I don't know that anyone said they would want to return to the University. The Duke Lacrosse players sued Duke, and it wasn't because they wanted to return there.
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