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    Re: Univ. of Oklahoma severs ties with frat after racist chant

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Students acting as students? I didn't know that smoking pot qualifies as "acting as a student". But riding on a bus is a "member of SAE activity". Oh I've read it all.
    More misrepresenting and being purposely obtuse. Nobody said riding the bus was racist. It was the chanting that was racist and the people who engaged in it did so as members of SAE. Continuing to deny this just makes you look defeated.
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    Re: Univ. of Oklahoma severs ties with frat after racist chant

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    More misrepresenting and being purposely obtuse. Nobody said riding the bus was racist. It was the chanting that was racist and the people who engaged in it did so as members of SAE. Continuing to deny this just makes you look defeated.
    "Chanting on a bus" is SAE activity. Of course!

    Okay, you win. You proved that the inappropriate acts of all students are always being promoted by an adult, either one they see every day or an entire corporation of them who are 1000 miles away! Woot!
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    Re: Univ. of Oklahoma severs ties with frat after racist chant

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    "Chanting on a bus" is SAE activity. Of course!
    More misrepresentation: It was the chant that was racist and the people who engaged in it did so as members of SAE.

    That doesn't meant chanting is an SAE activity. What it means is that the people who engaged in racist chanting were doing so as members of the fraternity. The chant was made for the fraternity and was song by the members as part of their group dynamic continuing to deny it makes you look silly.
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    Re: Univ. of Oklahoma severs ties with frat after racist chant

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    More misrepresentation: It was the chant that was racist and the people who engaged in it did so as members of SAE.

    That doesn't meant chanting is an SAE activity. What it means is that the people who engaged in racist chanting were doing so as members of the fraternity. The chant was made for the fraternity and was song by the members as part of their group dynamic continuing to deny it makes you look silly.
    Like I said, you proved that the actions of students are the result of adults promoting it, even adults who are 1000 miles away! It's the case everywhere. The bad behavior of students can always be attributed to adults promoting it. I got it! You can stop posting about it now. Adults make students do stupid things because they promote bad behavior.

    Let's get back to the topic, which isn't SAE national. It's this chapter.
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    Re: Univ. of Oklahoma severs ties with frat after racist chant

    Quote Originally Posted by PoS View Post
    I agree, they took a lot of punishment but then again, they did bring this unto themselves.
    They sure did. I made a lot of stupid mistakes when I was young too. Luckily I, like most people, didn't get caught.

    There are a lot of blood thirsty people who seem to want these kids to fry. And what they did wasn't even illegal, although you certainly wouldn't know it. Meh. The good thing for them is this country is easily distracted by shiny objects. This will be old news in about 2 days and nobody will remember these guys.
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    Re: Univ. of Oklahoma severs ties with frat after racist chant

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Like I said, you proved that the actions of students are the result of adults promoting it, even adults who are 1000 miles away! It's the case everywhere. The bad behavior of students can always be attributed to adults promoting it. I got it! You can stop posting about it now. Adults make students do stupid things because they promote bad behavior.
    More misrepresenting just makes you look silly at this point. The best part is that you believe it is all coincidental. Remember, multiple incidents, multiple members, multiple chapters, multiple universities, all tied by the same organization. Your conclusion? All coincidental.
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    Re: Univ. of Oklahoma severs ties with frat after racist chant

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    More misrepresenting just makes you look silly at this point. The best part is that you believe it is all coincidental. Remember, multiple incidents, multiple members, multiple chapters, multiple universities, all tied by the same organization. Your conclusion? All coincidental.
    I'm posting on topic, which is not SAE national. It's about a few yahoos from this chapter getting caught singing a racist song on a bus, the fraternity losing its charter, and 2 of the yahoos being expelled.

    Maybe a new thread in the Academia Section on how all national Greeks promote the bad behavior of their members (well, how leaders in general promote bad behavior of students) would be appropriate if you'd like to continue talking about that?
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    Re: Univ. of Oklahoma severs ties with frat after racist chant

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    I'm posting on topic, which is not SAE national. It's about a few yahoos from this chapter getting caught singing a racist song on a bus, the fraternity losing its charter, and 2 of the yahoos being expelled.
    Well, we knew you'd get to this point eventually. However, it was you that took issue with my contention that this was a reflection of the organization as a whole. Then spent 30 pages trying to refute it with absurd comparisons. You can report me if you want, however my contention still stands: All of these incidents, including this one are a reflection of SAE as an organization.
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    Re: Univ. of Oklahoma severs ties with frat after racist chant

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    You're not sure what you're discussing anymore are you? You said this was widespread and happened across the board. I want you to show a fraternity with as racist a history. Not a single racist incident at a single university. Can you do that? Hell, various members here compiled about 10 incidents from SAE alone. Can you do the same with another frat? I doubt it.
    Are you really pulling that card? lol? Are you telling me there's never been a single incident for any scenario of incidents?

    What a juvenile argument.

    Two black people killed a white couple from England in Baltimore. Does that mean all black people want to kill white people?

    Your argument makes about as much sense as a football bat.

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    Re: Univ. of Oklahoma severs ties with frat after racist chant

    Quote Originally Posted by 11Bravo View Post
    Are you really pulling that card? lol? Are you telling me there's never been a single incident for any scenario of incidents?
    Reading comprehension, it helps you avoid making such asinine statements. What has been asked is for you to show a history of an organization. Not a single incident. That's what's been done in this thread. Continuing to ignore it won't help you.
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