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    Re: Univ. of Oklahoma severs ties with frat after racist chant

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    It isn't a private university. It's a public university. As with any other public (government) entity, they're subject to the free speech guarantees of the First Amendment and aren't supposed punish students because they hold offensive views. This has been argued many times in courts.

    Public businesses can't operate how they choose. That's why you can't open a pubic bakery and deny service to a gay couple. Public accommodation laws.

    Gee, you were singing a different tune when it was a doctor refusing to treat a baby whose parents were lesbians

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    I don't know why any adult gives a crap about what another adult thinks of his/her bedroom preferences. The couple at the center of this story are apparently very hurt because this doctor doesn't agree with their preferences. I don't care who dislikes my blonde hair, my blue eyes, my choice of husband, my kids' clothes, what kind of car I drive, what kind of music I like, or what color my house is. Just as long as nobody doesn't provide me with what I pay for that everyone else gets for the same price that I pay.

    The baby got medical care that day. This couple is pissed because the doctor doesn't like them. BFD.

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    Not quite discrimination. The baby was seen. They didn't go to the doctor to get approval of their marriage.

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    Re: Univ. of Oklahoma severs ties with frat after racist chant

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Lol, relax, I make too much money to worry about Mickey Mouse Clubs. I'm glad you stopped to throw in your two cents and irrelevancy though. Hey, but here is your alleged fraternity acknowledging what you wont:

    Fraternity to investigate racist 'incidents' elsewhere



    Now move along, we've no time for your centrist views...
    Which also doesn't prove your claim that SAE national "promotes racism".

    By the way, former black brothers of SAE in Oklahoma said that there is no racism in SAE national. So much for your claim that they "promote racism".
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    Re: Univ. of Oklahoma severs ties with frat after racist chant

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Lol, relax, I make too much money to worry about Mickey Mouse Clubs. I'm glad you stopped to throw in your two cents and irrelevancy though. Hey, but here is your alleged fraternity acknowledging what you wont:

    Fraternity to investigate racist 'incidents' elsewhere



    Now move along, we've no time for your centrist views...
    What part of what I said is irrelevant? Did you miss the part about SAE having BLACK chapters? lol, BLACK members of THAT chapter have already come out to speak. Your assumptions are irrelevant.

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    Re: Univ. of Oklahoma severs ties with frat after racist chant

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    Actually, he's referring to "gangsta rap" a sub-genre that has been waning in popularity for many years.

    And the biggest consumers of rap music is white kids. If white people didn't buy rap, white people wouldn't know what it is and it wouldn't be such a big business.
    I know that is what he is referring to. I still don't know of any rap music that advocates white hate - espically since you are establishing that the biggest consumers are white.

    Though it should be pointed out that white consumers eat up mainstream rap. Gangsta rap has never really been mainstream and it's consumer base by and large is black and Hispanic.
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    Re: Univ. of Oklahoma severs ties with frat after racist chant

    Quote Originally Posted by americanwoman View Post
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    Good to know your chapter didn't but you can't deny some of the chapters disgraces or do you think it's no big deal?

    SAE Proudly Touts Association To The Confederacy On Its Website | ThinkProgress
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    Re: Univ. of Oklahoma severs ties with frat after racist chant

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Which also doesn't prove your claim that SAE national "promotes racism".

    By the way, former black brothers of SAE in Oklahoma said that there is no racism in SAE national.
    No they didn't. What they said is that the frat in question use to have black members. That's entirely irrelevant to an organization promoting racism. That you fail to see this is beyond me. You're desperate.
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    Re: Univ. of Oklahoma severs ties with frat after racist chant

    Quote Originally Posted by 11Bravo View Post
    What part of what I said is irrelevant? Did you miss the part about SAE having BLACK chapters? lol, BLACK members of THAT chapter have already come out to speak. Your assumptions are irrelevant.
    Did SAE promote racism when you were a brother?
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    Re: Univ. of Oklahoma severs ties with frat after racist chant

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    Thought police? The hell? So an organization severing ties with another organization that poorly represents it is being thought police? Do we all have to keep every social connection open until the end of time, no matter what?

    If a church severed ties with a secular aid organization for that organization's stance on homosexuality, is the church being 'the thought police'?Ridiculous.
    Would that even be allowed, without leftwing outrage?
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    Re: Univ. of Oklahoma severs ties with frat after racist chant

    Quote Originally Posted by 11Bravo View Post
    What part of what I said is irrelevant?
    Start with the first word in the post, then when you get to the period, you're there.

    lol, BLACK members of THAT chapter have already come out to speak. Your assumptions are irrelevant.
    There are no assumptions. SAE has a detailed history of racism.
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    Re: Univ. of Oklahoma severs ties with frat after racist chant

    Quote Originally Posted by americanwoman View Post
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    Good to know your chapter didn't but you can't deny some of the chapters disgraces or do you think it's no big deal?

    SAE Proudly Touts Association To The Confederacy On Its Website | ThinkProgress
    I'm not saying some chapters aren't racist, but if you've lived the fraternity life, unfortunately, MOST chapters of ANY frat have some form of racism. Including black fraternities.

    Ours had one incident but we had a President who was on his game, and we gave that racist loser the boot.

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