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    Re: Univ. of Oklahoma severs ties with frat after racist chant

    Quote Originally Posted by Zinthaniel View Post
    I don't know what it is. I'm still human and since this hits home for me - I find all your talk about them lawyering up and finding vindication in all this repugnant.

    It scares me to see future leaders like them show that kind of hate. Those kids are our future congressmen and women, doctors, lawyers, cops, what have you.

    It's disturbing. They should be expelled and go flip burgers. Where their hate for black people can not bleed into others people lives by their influence.


    This is an emotional response, i can admit that. But I honestly don't understand why you care about them.
    Because you look at it through emotion. I'm looking at it through the Constitution, which is not supposed to be emotional. We don't get to pick and choose what parts of Free Speech we like.
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    Re: Univ. of Oklahoma severs ties with frat after racist chant

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    They're trying to fool people into believing that racism isn't part of this fraternity. It most certainly looks like it. It just took unquestionable video evidence and the school's money makers (athletes) leaving for them to take notice.
    I was an SAE. Racism was not a part of any of it at all.

    You know SAE has black chapters, right? Our leadership conference was on a cruise in 2007 and I met a lot of the black chapters. Good guys.

    Your ASSUMPTIONS are ignorant. My guess? You were blackballed and SAE didn't give you a bid ;-)

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    Re: Univ. of Oklahoma severs ties with frat after racist chant

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    I'm not twisting your words. You said you're glad they're in the open. Why? The only thing that came out of them being in the open are death threats.
    That's not true - they're being held publicly accountable. And one of them has published a very thoughtful public apology which is probably a necessary first step for him to eventually move on from this incident.

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    Re: Univ. of Oklahoma severs ties with frat after racist chant

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    That's not true - they're being held publicly accountable. And one of them has published a very thoughtful public apology which is probably a necessary first step for him to eventually move on from this incident.
    Huh? That's exactly what I said earlier.
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    Re: Univ. of Oklahoma severs ties with frat after racist chant

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Because you look at it through emotion. I'm looking at it through the Constitution, which is not supposed to be emotional. We don't get to pick and choose what parts of Free Speech we like.
    Fine so be it. These kids should not be infringed upon by the government.

    However what ever other emotional reactions they are facing by non government officials - I think they deserve.
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    Re: Univ. of Oklahoma severs ties with frat after racist chant

    Quote Originally Posted by 11Bravo View Post
    I was an SAE. Racism was not a part of any of it at all.

    You know SAE has black chapters, right? Our leadership conference was on a cruise in 2007 and I met a lot of the black chapters. Good guys.

    Your ASSUMPTIONS are ignorant. My guess? You were blackballed and SAE didn't give you a bid ;-)
    You won't convince him of that. He has his mind made up. No evidence, just "I say so".

    By the way, not only does SAE have black chapters, that particular chapter at Oklahoma has had black members in the past. One of them has gone public saying that when he was a brother and lived in the house from 1998-2002, there were other minority members at the time, and the national organization was anything but racist.

    Some people see what they want to see. And I thought more than a few times that his anger towards SAE (it goes on for pages) was a direct result of being blackballed, by SAE or any other Greek for that matter.
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    Re: Univ. of Oklahoma severs ties with frat after racist chant

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    This is probably because you are listening to mainstream streamline rap. Pushed out daily without any form of quality checking so that record companies can make a quick buck off of rap music that is mainly beats and repeated choruses.
    Actually, he's referring to "gangsta rap" a sub-genre that has been waning in popularity for many years.

    And the biggest consumers of rap music is white kids. If white people didn't buy rap, white people wouldn't know what it is and it wouldn't be such a big business.
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    Re: Univ. of Oklahoma severs ties with frat after racist chant

    Quote Originally Posted by Zinthaniel View Post
    Fine so be it. These kids should not be infringed upon by the government.

    However what ever other emotional reactions they are facing by non government officials - I think they deserve.
    I agree with that second statement. But I don't agree that they (and their families) have earned death threats. They deserve scorn or disassociation or other punishments. People have to be held accountable for their actions which is why people really need to start thinking before shooting their mouths off. My father used to say "Nobody ever got in trouble for keeping his mouth shut". Not entirely true, but you get the drift.

    I think that people should have the right to say what's on their minds, but with any freedom there comes responsibility, and if you can't handle the consequences of your words being judged, don't say 'em.
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    Re: Univ. of Oklahoma severs ties with frat after racist chant

    Quote Originally Posted by 11Bravo View Post
    I was an SAE. Racism was not a part of any of it at all.

    You know SAE has black chapters, right? Our leadership conference was on a cruise in 2007 and I met a lot of the black chapters. Good guys.

    Your ASSUMPTIONS are ignorant. My guess? You were blackballed and SAE didn't give you a bid ;-)
    Lol, relax, I make too much money to worry about Mickey Mouse Clubs. I'm glad you stopped to throw in your two cents and irrelevancy though. Hey, but here is your alleged fraternity acknowledging what you wont:

    Fraternity to investigate racist 'incidents' elsewhere

    "Several other incidents with chapters or members have been brought to the attention of the headquarters staff and leaders, and each of those instances will be investigated for further action," SAE said in a statement. "Some of the allegations refer to incidents, which Sigma Alpha Epsilon acknowledges, from more than 20 years ago. Although we cannot change the past, we can learn from the present and alter the future."
    Now move along, we've no time for your centrist views...
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    Re: Univ. of Oklahoma severs ties with frat after racist chant

    Quote Originally Posted by 11Bravo View Post
    I was an SAE. Racism was not a part of any of it at all.

    You know SAE has black chapters, right? Our leadership conference was on a cruise in 2007 and I met a lot of the black chapters. Good guys.

    Your ASSUMPTIONS are ignorant. My guess? You were blackballed and SAE didn't give you a bid ;-)
    Source?

    Good to know your chapter didn't but you can't deny some of the chapters disgraces or do you think it's no big deal?

    SAE Proudly Touts Association To The Confederacy On Its Website | ThinkProgress

    In 2013, the frat’s Washington University in St. Louis chapter was suspended after pledges reportedly sang racial slurs to African American students. According to one description of the incident,
    One guy began to recite the lyrics to a rap song (Bitches Ain’t **** by Dr. Dre) as if it were a slam poem. He was reading the lyrics from his phone. The majority of the group of guys he was with found it funny and some were laughing. One member of the group was videoing the event on his phone. The guys in the group asked the black people in the booth to “show some respect” for the performance. As [redacted] continued to recite the lyrics, he came across the word “nigga” and said it with no hesitation. One of the black students tossed an empty bottle at him in anger only to be told by the group that it was part of the song, so it was okay. The black student replied that it was still offensive and the group apologized half-heartedly.
    The student later apologized and admitted that this stunt was “part of an initiation for Sigma Alpha Epsilon.” The president of the Wash. U. chapter also apologized on Facebook.

    In December of 2014, SAE’s Clemson University chapter hosted a “Cripmas” party, named after the California-based “Crips” street gang. Photos of the incident depicted attendees at this party flashing gang signs and dressed in costumes intended to make them look like gang members. Much of the chapter’s leadership resigned after this incident, and the chapter “suspended all activity indefinitely” shortly after the incident, according to a statement by SAE’s national office.

    In 2006, an SAE member at the University of Memphis quit the fraternity after two other frat members harassed him for dating a black woman. According to an editorial in the Memphis Commercial Appeal, the former SAE member “said SAE members used the N-word to refer to his girlfriend” and that they “also suggested that he must have met Darden on the street one night and that he couldn’t possibly be interested in a real relationship with someone of another race.” The Associated Press later reported that two students were suspended by SAE’s national office after they determined that these students “made comments that were inappropriate and unbecoming.”

    In 2006, SAE’s Baylor University chapter hosted an “E-Dawg”-themed party that the university’s NAACP chapter labeled “insensitive.” According to the Baylor Lariat, pictures “captured students wearing bandanas and holding 40-ounce bottles in brown paper during the party. One of the pictures depicted a student who covered herself in bronzer in imitation of a black person.” The pictures were discovered after they were posted to Facebook.

    In 2000, SAE’s Oglethorpe University chapter was put on probation, along with chapters from three other fraternities, after an incident where African American students visiting from other schools faced racial harassment and assault. According to one news report uncovered on Nexis, officials at two predominantly black colleges that competed in a cross-county meet at Oglethorpe “complained that Oglethorpe students in fraternity houses threw bottles at athletes and screamed racial epithets.”

    In 2009, Valdosta State University in Georgia hosted a community forum on “Heritage, Hate or Fear?” that was inspired by the university’s SAE chapter’s practice of flying a Confederate Flag on its front lawn. A lawyer for the fraternity’s national headquarters warned that the chapter could lose its charter if it continued to fly the flag.
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