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    Re: Univ. of Oklahoma severs ties with frat after racist chant

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    I did. Turns out, no. I don't have the right to use someone else's property as a platform for my free speech. That's why Fox News is not constitutionally obligated to host my "communism is great" show.
    Fascinating. But since the topic of this thread isn't Fox News, communism, and using someone else's property as a platform for free speech, irrelevant. Maybe you can start a thread to talk about communism, Fox News and other people's property.
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    Re: Univ. of Oklahoma severs ties with frat after racist chant

    Quote Originally Posted by PoS View Post
    I somewhat agree but one has to live with the consequences of their words as well.
    I am not disagreeing with what the university did. They have a right to not want that kind of thing at their university.

    My only point is that people and America as a whole need to remember sometimes that free speech and freedom of expression are rights and should never be trampled on.

    Besides, I would far rather these dicks expose themselves for the racist pigs they are - so they are out in the open - rather then talk in whispers and remain anonymous.
    Muzzling racists just forces them into the shadows...I would rather they were out in the open.

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    Re: Univ. of Oklahoma severs ties with frat after racist chant

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    I am not disagreeing with what the university did. They have a right to not want that kind of thing at their university.

    My only point is that people and America as a whole need to remember sometimes that free speech and freedom of expression are rights and should never be trampled on.

    Besides, I would far rather these dicks expose themselves for the racist pigs they are - so they are out in the open - rather then talk in whispers and remain anonymous.
    Muzzling racists just forces them into the shadows...I would rather they were out in the open.
    They aren't anonymous. Their names are out in the open and they've both made public statements.
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    Re: Univ. of Oklahoma severs ties with frat after racist chant

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    I imagine that if this was 1915, you'd be a Democrat and all the "progressives" you decry and insult would be Republicans.
    I wouldn't have even have been allowed to attend the Democratic convention in 1915, and sure as hell wouldn't have been associated with a party full of aging segregationists and wonderful new progressive ideals like eugenics. So thanks for your naive and narrow view of history, which is off topic but perhaps fitting given what *is* being discussed in this thread.

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    Re: Univ. of Oklahoma severs ties with frat after racist chant

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    They aren't anonymous. Their names are out in the open and they've both made public statements.
    Ummm...I know that...that is my point.

    I want people like that out in the open...not hiding in shadows.

    Freedom of expression/speech helps that.

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    Re: Univ. of Oklahoma severs ties with frat after racist chant

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    Ummm...I know that...that is my point.

    I want people like that out in the open...not hiding in shadows.

    Freedom of expression/speech helps that.
    How were they going to remain anonymous? Their families have been receiving death threats now that their names are out in the open.
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    Re: Univ. of Oklahoma severs ties with frat after racist chant

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    I am not disagreeing with what the university did. They have a right to not want that kind of thing at their university.

    My only point is that people and America as a whole need to remember sometimes that free speech and freedom of expression are rights and should never be trampled on.

    Besides, I would far rather these dicks expose themselves for the racist pigs they are - so they are out in the open - rather then talk in whispers and remain anonymous.
    Muzzling racists just forces them into the shadows...I would rather they were out in the open.
    By the way, why are you okay with what the University did if you support Free Speech rights? And what right do you think the University has to punish someone for speech?
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    Re: Univ. of Oklahoma severs ties with frat after racist chant

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    How were they going to remain anonymous? Their families have been receiving death threats now that their names are out in the open.
    What are you blathering about?

    When did I say they would or should be anonymous?

    And as for death threats...that is very unfortunate which emphasizes my point...that these idiots should be allowed to express their ideas - no matter how repulsive - without fear for their lives.

    Free speech is all important.
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    Re: Univ. of Oklahoma severs ties with frat after racist chant

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    What are you talking about?

    When did I say they would or should be anonymous?

    And as for death threats...that is very unfortunate which emphasizes my point...that these idiots should be allowed to express their ideas - no matter how repulsive - without fear for their lives.

    Free speech is all important.
    The fact that they are not anonymous is the reason they are receiving death threats. The fact that they are not anonymous is the reason their families are receiving death threats. You said it was good to have their names in the open, and not allow them to remain in the shadows. So why is it good that they're out in the open? So they can be threatened?
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    Re: Univ. of Oklahoma severs ties with frat after racist chant

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    I can't understand what most of the 'death metal' musicians are saying but, pretty sure it has nothing to do with race.
    Who cares if YOU can't understand it, children can and they eat it up like its candy. Welcome to the internet for the sake of this discussion you could have looked up lyrics - But I will go ahead and do that for you.


    Devourment – Baby Killer

    Splaying inside the womb
    Red and wet I tear chunks from the pussy

    Red and wet mangled unborn baby
    Eat the meat dripping from filthy…
    Cumstained, blood-soaked, rotten ****

    Infant skull exploding in my mouth
    It’s brain on the floor
    Rap on the other hand, n---er, n---er, over and over. Whites are bad, over and over. Then there's. G damn, bitches, hoes. mofos and c--ts etc. over and over again.
    Please point out any rap songs that say white people are bad. Thanks for showing ignorance on a subject you don't understand once again.

    I see a very limited vocabulary here.
    This is probably because you are listening to mainstream streamline rap. Pushed out daily without any form of quality checking so that record companies can make a quick buck off of rap music that is mainly beats and repeated choruses.

    But what's your point. My contention with your post is that assumption that rap has anything to do with any bad behavior in white children. By and large there is all sorts of sordid music out there including music written and performed by white musicians.

    The images that I posted are album covers for metal bands. They speak for the material that is sung by white musicians and listened to by white kids.
    If you insists on lyrics from these bands here you go - And this is just one example of hundreds of others -
    Claws Of Laughter Dead

    Ride the wind
    My aggressions mirrored themselves in her eyes
    As the blade was ripping up her insides

    Her eyes
    Stabbing and stabbing
    My love fell dead to the floor (she's not alive anymore)
    Together with sheds of my sanity
    Dead in the absence of agony

    She's still here with me
    As Hell turns to ice

    This may be subjective but I'm going to go out on a limb here and say this is far more disturbing than anything you will hear in rap. Especially real rap.
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