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    Re: Univ. of Oklahoma severs ties with frat after racist chant

    All I can think of is:

    Freedom of Expression should always be encouraged...no matter how disgusting that expression is.

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    Re: Univ. of Oklahoma severs ties with frat after racist chant

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    I know what kind of people lived in Alabama before the Civil War and now.
    I see, so you really do believe because racist were in Alabama before the civil war and now that somehow means this whole fraternity , all 220+ chapters, is racist.

    that's some bulletproof logic bro

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    Re: Univ. of Oklahoma severs ties with frat after racist chant

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    I see, so you really do believe because racist were in Alabama before the civil war and now that somehow means this whole fraternity , all 220+ chapters, is racist.

    that's some bulletproof logic bro


    No, but I'm not surprised to see some racists in that outfit.

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    Re: Univ. of Oklahoma severs ties with frat after racist chant

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    No, but I'm not surprised to see some racists in that outfit.
    well, I'm not surprised to see racists in any outfit... but at least we are where we can agree now

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    Re: Univ. of Oklahoma severs ties with frat after racist chant

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    Yeah the national chapter was the quickest to act and shut them down on OU damn near immediately. I'm kind of torn. These kids are stupid and they definitely need to learn a stern lesson but I really don't want to see their lives destroyed for being stupid. I feel that most of us on here are just fortunate that we preceded the internet in our youth so our stupidity didn't get nationalized.

    That being said, I can't believe people are in here defending them and excusing it away as free speech. People's reaction to it is free speech too. I just hope people can temper their reaction to it so that these kids learn their lesson but still have a future where they aren't so backed into a corner by opposition that they resist change out of spite and therefore DON'T learn a lesson.
    Whenever I hear about frat-daddy nonsense, my first thought is "Sig Ep," but I don't think this one chapter's inexcusable behavior is representative of the nationwide fraternity. I also can't believe that in 2015, these kids didn't know better, but I'm with you: I hope there's a lesson learned.

    Sigh, it's just that this lesson shouldn't have had to be learned.

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    Re: Univ. of Oklahoma severs ties with frat after racist chant

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    All I can think of is:

    Freedom of Expression should always be encouraged...no matter how disgusting that expression is.

    See while I agree with that, there is always the grey area where you can't really fully support that either. Maybe they might be extreme cases, like say an abortion extremists preaching to school kids on a playground, but I cannot encourage that always or blindly - it's just not right.
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    Re: Univ. of Oklahoma severs ties with frat after racist chant

    Quote Originally Posted by Zinthaniel View Post
    Most white kids are listening to vulgar Metal far more than rap and are far more impacted by the lyrics therein.

    you'll be hard pressed to find these images in the album art and marketing of rap -







    This is a genre that is entirely comprised of White musicians and has a devout and dedicated following of white fans that spans the globe by the millions.

    So place whatever filth you see in your own racial community were it actually belongs.

    Thank you very much.
    I can't understand what most of the 'death metal' musicians are saying but, pretty sure it has nothing to do with race.

    Rap on the other hand, n---er, n---er, over and over. Whites are bad, over and over. Then there's. G damn, bitches, hoes. mofos and c--ts etc. over and over again.

    I see a very limited vocabulary here.
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    Re: Univ. of Oklahoma severs ties with frat after racist chant

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    No kidding! I already said that I added that. I said this about 10-15 posts back. Are you seriously this desperate to make some kind of point?



    I already stated that I discussed both in my post. I discussed the university knowing AND the behavior being acceptable for the members of the fraternity. You even quoted/responded to the post where I first explained this (200). Was the post not clear enough? There is really no concise way to explain that I discussed both issues. However, we're at that stage where you're just trying to not admit that your points really failed to convince anyone.
    LMAO. Seriously? You're pretending that you knew he was talking about the university (not the fraternity), and you were "adding" something about the fraternity? Oh please...stop.

    By the way - you have no more evidence that the university knew about and accepted racist behavior than you have of the national fraternity promoting this behavior. So even if I am supposed to believe that you were agreeing with him but "added something", you're still making slanderous accusations with zero evidence.

    I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything with my posts. I'm calling you out on slanderous accusations that you can't back up. It's quite simple.
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    Re: Univ. of Oklahoma severs ties with frat after racist chant

    Quote Originally Posted by americanwoman View Post
    If this was a group of Muslim students chanting,
    no Americans will ever be one of us,
    praise ISIS, celebrate 9/11


    would some of you still defend that as freedom of speech without repercussions or privacy laws? What would be the difference?
    Of course. Why would you think that the First Amendment only applies to racist speech or speech from non-Muslims?
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    Re: Univ. of Oklahoma severs ties with frat after racist chant

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    All I can think of is:

    Freedom of Expression should always be encouraged...no matter how disgusting that expression is.
    I somewhat agree but one has to live with the consequences of their words as well.

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