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    Re: Univ. of Oklahoma severs ties with frat after racist chant

    Quote Originally Posted by ChezC3 View Post
    A bus chartered by a private organization is not a public space.

    But again, keep trying to defend the indefensible so your white guilt is soothed...
    However the conversation has to be private for the eavesdropping law to apply
    I would argue, that a conversation on a crowded bus regardless of who's chartered it, qualifies as a public conversation
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    Re: Univ. of Oklahoma severs ties with frat after racist chant

    Quote Originally Posted by EMNofSeattle View Post
    However the conversation has to be private for the eavesdropping law to apply
    I would argue, that a conversation on a crowded bus regardless of who's chartered it, qualifies as a public conversation
    I would disagree as it is a space confined for private purpose.

    **Further, what is defined as a "private conversation" It wouldn't be exclusive to 2 parties lest conference calls and the like wouldn't be covered, which, I'm no lawyer, but I believe would be.
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    Re: Univ. of Oklahoma severs ties with frat after racist chant

    Quote Originally Posted by EMNofSeattle View Post
    I would argue the university is an arm of the government.....
    Yes, of course it is acting as the state for Fourteenth Amendment purposes.

    We're at the point where if you criticize anyone, you can be called a racist
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    Re: Univ. of Oklahoma severs ties with frat after racist chant

    black students may try joining a beta gamma club if they believe alfa is racist
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    Re: Univ. of Oklahoma severs ties with frat after racist chant

    Quote Originally Posted by ChezC3 View Post
    I would disagree as it is a space confined for private purpose.
    According to Oklahoma law, it is a felony to willfully intercept, endeavor to intercept, or disclose the contents of any wire, oral, or electronic communication. Okla. Stat. tit. 13 § 176.3. It is not a crime for a person to intercept a wire, oral, or electronic communication when the person is a party to the conversation or when one party to the conversation has given prior consent, so long as the person does not intercept the communication for criminal purposes. Okla. Stat. tit. § 176.4.

    Under the statute, consent is not required for the taping of a non-electronic communication uttered by a person who does not have a reasonable expectation of privacy in that communication. Okla. Stat. tit. § 176.2.

    - See more at: Oklahoma - State laws - Wire Tapping
    I think the recorder is on solid legal ground
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    Re: Univ. of Oklahoma severs ties with frat after racist chant

    Quote Originally Posted by ChezC3 View Post
    I would disagree as it is a space confined for private purpose.

    **Further, what is defined as a "private conversation" It wouldn't be exclusive to 2 parties lest conference calls and the like wouldn't be covered, which, I'm no lawyer, but I believe would be.
    Most of the time if you are party to the conversation your own consent to recording is sufficient. It depends on what OK requires for consent. It is likely that the uploader is well within their legal rights.

    Recording Phone Calls and Conversations | Digital Media Law Project

    If you plan to record telephone calls or in-person conversations (including by recording video that captures sound), you should be aware that there are federal and state wiretapping laws that may limit your ability to do so. These laws not only expose you to the risk of criminal prosecution, but also potentially give an injured party a civil claim for money damages against you.

    From a legal standpoint, the most important question in the recording context is whether you must get consent from one or all of the parties to a phone call or conversation before recording it. Federal law and many state wiretapping statutes permit recording if one party (including you) to the phone call or conversation consents. Other states require that all parties to the communication consent.
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    Re: Univ. of Oklahoma severs ties with frat after racist chant

    Quote Originally Posted by ChezC3 View Post
    A bus chartered by a private organization is not a public space.

    But again, keep trying to defend the indefensible so your white guilt is soothed...
    In my experience, the people who are the quickest to impute racial animosity to others without any justification are often the same ones who harbor the most of it themselves. Of course I don't claim to know whether that is true in your case.

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    Re: Univ. of Oklahoma severs ties with frat after racist chant

    Quote Originally Posted by EMNofSeattle View Post
    I think the recorder is on solid legal ground
    nder the statute, consent is not required for the taping of a non-electronic communication uttered by a person who does not have a reasonable expectation of privacy in that communication. Okla. Stat. tit. § 176.2.

    I would argue they do have a reasonable expectation of privacy in this regard.

    Again, this is a fraternity which is secretive by its very nature. All the persons present were members, or guests of members, and it can easily be understood that such language and wording wouldn't be expressed publicly -- Which is where the reasonable expectation of privacy would come into play.

    But thanks for finding the law, I didn't know, as my OP stated....
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    Re: Univ. of Oklahoma severs ties with frat after racist chant

    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    In my experience, the people who are the quickest to impute racial animosity to others without any justification are often the same ones who harbor the most of it themselves. Of course I don't claim to know whether that is true in your case.

    Than I am not aware of what the purpose was for your posting

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    Re: Univ. of Oklahoma severs ties with frat after racist chant

    Quote Originally Posted by Zinthaniel View Post
    Most of the time if you are party to the conversation your own consent to recording is sufficient. It depends on what OK requires for consent. It is likely that the uploader is well within their legal rights.

    Recording Phone Calls and Conversations | Digital Media Law Project
    Sounds self serving enough to be true...
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