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    Re: Univ. of Oklahoma severs ties with frat after racist chant

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Two of the students were expelled today.
    And that was wrong. Even the nazi asshats have the right to sing their hate songs. This is a real and enumerated right. Now the fraternity, that's a different story. That should be disbanded, not by the national branch trying to divorce themselves from the stink, but by the university.

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    Re: Univ. of Oklahoma severs ties with frat after racist chant

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    Such instances occur all over the country and by many different fraternities and sororities
    14 examples of different fraternities and sororities doing the same thing. Not a consistent pattern throughout the years.
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    Re: Univ. of Oklahoma severs ties with frat after racist chant

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    And that was wrong. Even the nazi asshats have the right to sing their hate songs. This is a real and enumerated right. Now the fraternity, that's a different story. That should be disbanded, not by the national branch trying to divorce themselves from the stink, but by the university.
    According to the law and the ACLU, free speech is protected on a pubic university, and especially when the speech occurs off campus, as this did. The expulsion of these 2 would appear to me to be wrong, but I'm not a Constitutional attorney. I just don't know why everyone is nonchalant about students getting expelled from public (think=government) universities because of something that they said.
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    Re: Univ. of Oklahoma severs ties with frat after racist chant

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    Wow..

    More insulting posts instead of dialogue and debate...

    what a shock
    Quit complaining and report it then. I bet nothing will come of it.
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    Re: Univ. of Oklahoma severs ties with frat after racist chant

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Two of the students were expelled today.
    Suspended from the fraternity, not the school.

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    Re: Univ. of Oklahoma severs ties with frat after racist chant

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    No evidence. I'm disappointed. I thought you quoted me because you had something to share.

    No, you're right. There is no other fraternal organization in the nation that has ever had an experience with racism on campuses - ever.
    Creating strawman arguments doesn't suit you. Show us another organization with a similar pattern. I've shown that this pattern exists within this particular organization through the number of incidents in various chapters of the same group. Can you do that too? No? I wonder why.
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    Re: Univ. of Oklahoma severs ties with frat after racist chant

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    Suspended from the fraternity, not the school.
    They were expelled from the school.
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    Re: Univ. of Oklahoma severs ties with frat after racist chant

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Creating strawman arguments doesn't suit you. Show us another organization with a similar pattern. I've shown that this pattern exists within this particular organization through the number of incidents in various chapters of the same group. Can you do that too? No? I wonder why.
    One more time, since you don't seem to understand. When you accuse a national organization of "promoting racism", you are expected to back it up. Now, when you have evidence that SAE as a national organization "promotes racism", as you claim they do, post it.
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    Re: Univ. of Oklahoma severs ties with frat after racist chant

    just saw the school expelled them.

    This is a public funded school.

    This is unconstitutional.

    even racist dirtbags have rights.

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    Re: Univ. of Oklahoma severs ties with frat after racist chant

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    One more time, since you don't seem to understand. When you accuse a national organization of "promoting racism", you are expected to back it up.
    And I did, through the numerous examples of chapters of the same organization getting caught doing the same thing. You ignoring those instances because it doesn't fit your greek life memories doesn't change the obvious.
    I refuse to accept the view that mankind is so tragically bound to the starless midnight of racism and war that the bright daybreak of peace and brotherhood can never become a reality. - MLK

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