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    Re: Republicans Warn Iran -- and Obama -- That Deal Won't Last

    Quote Originally Posted by Threegoofs View Post
    I guess you'd rather spend money on military defense of oil supplies. That way you can pretend it's about freedom and not oil and profits.
    Hey, how about you be the first to lead a petroleum free existence?

    Besides, we here in the US are sitting on one of the largest reserves around, the Bakken Shale deposits.

    The US could be energy independent of the Middle East by just pumping that, given the needed federal drilling permits (oh wait, Obama's against that isn't he? - record lows issued this administration), and a clean safe way to move it to the refineries (oh wait, Obama's against that too - vetoed Keystone-XL).

    So what's the deal here? It's like Obama wants to back the nation into an impossible corner with no way out, as far as energy is concerned.

    On one hand he says he wants the US to become energy independent, but then he's unwilling to issue the drilling permits to make it happen.
    He says he wants a vibrant growing economy, with an active manufacturing sector, but then he increases the cost for that electricity.

    It's kinda schizophrenic.
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    Re: Republicans Warn Iran -- and Obama -- That Deal Won't Last

    Quote Originally Posted by Threegoofs View Post
    That's true. You're very one dimensional.

    Feel free to ignore anything that doesn't fit into your predetermined worldview.
    can you please give us what ISIS is "thinking and their view" since you seem to be a wealth of amazing angles..

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    Re: Republicans Warn Iran -- and Obama -- That Deal Won't Last

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    Hey, how about you be the first to lead a petroleum free existence?

    Besides, we here in the US are sitting on one of the largest reserves around, the Bakken Shale deposits.

    The US could be energy independent of the Middle East by just pumping that, given the needed federal drilling permits (oh wait, Obama's against that isn't he? - record lows issued this administration), and a clean safe way to move it to the refineries (oh wait, Obama's against that too - vetoed Keystone-XL).

    So what's the deal here? It's like Obama wants to back the nation into an impossible corner with no way out, as far as energy is concerned.

    On one hand he says he wants the US to become energy independent, but then he's unwilling to issue the drilling permits to make it happen.
    He says he wants a vibrant growing economy, with an active manufacturing sector, but then he increases the cost for that electricity.

    It's kinda schizophrenic.
    No, we can't be energy independent from that, if you want to be a part of the free market. It costs 5x as much to get that oil as it does to get it from the Middle East.
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    Re: Republicans Warn Iran -- and Obama -- That Deal Won't Last

    Quote Originally Posted by Threegoofs View Post
    No, we can't be energy independent from that, if you want to be a part of the free market. It costs 5x as much to get that oil as it does to get it from the Middle East.
    we can be energy independent if Obama would stop hating us..

    why is Obama not allowing for driling in Alaska? or Keystone

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    Re: Republicans Warn Iran -- and Obama -- That Deal Won't Last

    Quote Originally Posted by Travis007 View Post
    we can be energy independent if Obama would stop hating us..

    why is Obama not allowing for driling in Alaska? or Keystone
    I pointed out why this is pointless in earlier posts.

    We need to move off oil in the entire world. It's a win win for everyone except for the Middle East and Texas. That's a good trade, I think..
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    Re: Republicans Warn Iran -- and Obama -- That Deal Won't Last

    Quote Originally Posted by Threegoofs View Post
    I pointed out why this is pointless in earlier posts.

    We need to move off oil in the entire world. It's a win win for everyone except for the Middle East and Texas. That's a good trade, I think..
    and we need to move off "gravity and water"....

    why do you liberals just not get it.. ?

    Ill tell ya what.. when AF1 can run on solar you let me know.. Let Obama show us how its done..thats a great trade..keep Obama golfing here ....

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    Re: Republicans Warn Iran -- and Obama -- That Deal Won't Last

    Quote Originally Posted by Travis007 View Post
    and we need to move off "gravity and water"....

    why do you liberals just not get it.. ?

    Ill tell ya what.. when AF1 can run on solar you let me know.. Let Obama show us how its done..thats a great trade..keep Obama golfing here ....
    I think it's you who doesn't get it. It's pretty complicated, and I know it's hard to understand, but reducing fossil fuel use does not mean eliminating it.

    Shades of grey are hard, I know.
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    Re: Republicans Warn Iran -- and Obama -- That Deal Won't Last

    Quote Originally Posted by Threegoofs View Post
    I pointed out why this is pointless in earlier posts.

    We need to move off oil in the entire world. It's a win win for everyone except for the Middle East and Texas. That's a good trade, I think..
    Yea.. Russia and Venezuala along with Alaska and the USA proper have no oil....LOL

    trhe reason why Obama is stopping our exploration is TO HELP OUR ENEMIES

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    Re: Republicans Warn Iran -- and Obama -- That Deal Won't Last

    Quote Originally Posted by Threegoofs View Post
    I think it's you who doesn't get it. It's pretty complicated, and I know it's hard to understand, but reducing fossil fuel use does not mean eliminating it.

    Shades of grey are hard, I know.
    Its not complicated at all... LOL....

    Oh I get it..

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    Re: Republicans Warn Iran -- and Obama -- That Deal Won't Last

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    Am I'm all for it. This is, after all, the only planet we have, so we had better take good care of it. And on whole, I think we are.

    I just see no need to force it to happen at the point of a government gun, swimming upstream the whole way, forcing the market to do something that it won't or can't. Better to use the market to make it happen when the time and the technology are 'right'.

    Besides, we already have electric vehicles available in the market, such as the Nissan Leaf and it's competitors. Just that the market hasn't accepted them, and their sales are pretty lousy.
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    Here’s our tally for U.S. sales in the month of September:

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