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    Re: Republicans Warn Iran -- and Obama -- That Deal Won't Last

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Oh, so it was their money to begin with. Turning loose of it shouldn't be a problem, then, but, since we have it, it's a bargaining chip.

    Oh sure, it would have been a bargaining chip had we held it as a condition of complying with a deal. But just giving it to them means it can't be used for leverage.
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    Re: Republicans Warn Iran -- and Obama -- That Deal Won't Last

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    Well we haven't spent trillions in a war that ends up destabilizing a region. That's much better than the last Republican in charge of foreign policy.

    As for Europe and Russia, not sure exactly what Republicans are pushing for that Obama's not doing.
    yea..its "Stable " now that Obama fumbled away Iraq by not getting a SOFA..and is playing into Irans hostile arms

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    Re: Republicans Warn Iran -- and Obama -- That Deal Won't Last

    Iran can NOT be Trusted


    Obama can NOT be Trusted


    Iran is notorious for being ruthless negotiators and liars.. and THEY WON ALREADY.. this was all about "buying time" to get the Soviet Nuke plants to the point that they can not be stopped... This is why the Ukraine is in play also at this time..

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    Re: Republicans Warn Iran -- and Obama -- That Deal Won't Last

    Quote Originally Posted by Travis007 View Post
    Iran can NOT be Trusted

    Obama can NOT be Trusted

    Iran is notorious for being ruthless negotiators and liars.. and THEY WON ALREADY.. this was all about "buying time" to get the Soviet Nuke plants to the point that they can not be stopped... This is why the Ukraine is in play also at this time..
    OK, let's assume you're right. Now what? We can't negotiate with liars, so we fire up the bombers?

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    Re: Republicans Warn Iran -- and Obama -- That Deal Won't Last

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    OK, let's assume you're right. Now what? We can't negotiate with liars, so we fire up the bombers?
    we keep that option on the table and ramp up sanctions as high as we can, we cut off all banking and commerce.. Iron Clad...we supporr regime change and tell them we will work to at all cost to have their regime destroyed.. we tell Putin if he will not support that and help we will prosecute them over the Ukraine to the max...

    we tell Iran we support Israel 100% and will assist and support them to th max to destory the Nukes..


    we tell Iran that we will again enter Iraq so we can set up attack points and bases , infrastructureto attack them...

    This is why Obama failed us and lost all leverage by leaving Iraq... Obama is an ENEMY OF THE USA

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    Re: Republicans Warn Iran -- and Obama -- That Deal Won't Last

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    OK, let's assume you're right. Now what? We can't negotiate with liars, so we fire up the bombers?
    so you Libs want to just sign anythign so Obama can again claim a false and dangerous "victory"?

    Obama is not fit to negotiate a Burger King menu..

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    Re: Republicans Warn Iran -- and Obama -- That Deal Won't Last

    Quote Originally Posted by Travis007 View Post
    we keep that option on the table and ramp up sanctions as high as we can, we cut off all banking and commerce.. Iron Clad...we supporr regime change and tell them we will work to at all cost to have their regime destroyed.. we tell Putin if he will not support that and help we will prosecute them over the Ukraine to the max...
    Well, regime changed has worked so well in Afghanistan and Iraq, so I can see why you'd advise us to go down that road for the third time. I'm pretty sure the next regime will love us, we will likely be greeted as liberators.

    we tell Iran we support Israel 100% and will assist and support them to th max to destory the Nukes..

    we tell Iran that we will again enter Iraq so we can set up attack points and bases , infrastructureto attack them...

    This is why Obama failed us and lost all leverage by leaving Iraq... Obama is an ENEMY OF THE USA
    OK, so that sounds like a workable plan.

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    Re: Republicans Warn Iran -- and Obama -- That Deal Won't Last

    Quote Originally Posted by Travis007 View Post
    so you Libs want to just sign anythign so Obama can again claim a false and dangerous "victory"?

    Obama is not fit to negotiate a Burger King menu..
    No, not anything.

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    Re: Republicans Warn Iran -- and Obama -- That Deal Won't Last

    Just in case anyone was wondering about the nature of the administration's negotiations with Iran:

    Kerry: Iran deal 'not legally binding' | WashingtonExaminer.com
    The Obama administration won't submit any deal limiting Iran's nuclear ambitions to Congress for approval because it won't be legally binding, Secretary of State John Kerry said Wednesday.

    "We've been clear from the beginning we're not negotiating a legally binding plan. We're negotiating a plan that will have a capacity for enforcement," he told the Senate Foreign Relations Committee.

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    Re: Republicans Warn Iran -- and Obama -- That Deal Won't Last

    Iran is acting like a very rational actor in this play, as they have been for years. They want nukes for a very good reason - they are surrounded by potential enemies, and two are armed with nuclear weapons, not to mention the US.

    The US has little interests in the region besides oil (and the holy rollers hoping for a second coming in Israel).

    Our best strategy would be to minimize our dependence on their oil, and hopefully minimize the worlds dependence upon it, thus making the region the equivalent of a backwater. The best way by far to do this is to develop alternative fuel sources, so that the economic benefits of creating energy go to us, not them. Unfortunately, our shortsighted politicians are outsourcing this to the Chinese, so the leaders in renewable energy in a few decades wiil be outside the US.
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