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    Re: Obama Says Nuclear Deal Offered to Iran Is ‘Extraordinarily Reasonable’

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    I do not understand why America's right is so focused on Iran. Pakistan is a country which has nuclear weapons and is far less stable than Iran. Is it the relative closeness of Iran to Israel? Is it the result of right-wing Israeli propaganda?

    Things may change in a couple weeks if Netanyahu and the Likud lose the upcoming elections. Presently, Likud and the Zionist Union parties are basically tied in polling
    1. Has Pakistan told the world its overarching desire is to wipe Israel off the map?
    2. Pakistan has India to keep an eye on them.
    3. Pakistan isn't run by religious zealots.
    4. Pakistan is our ally.
    5. Which country is a target of terrorists? Pakistan or Iran?
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    Re: Obama Says Nuclear Deal Offered to Iran Is ‘Extraordinarily Reasonable’

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Do you think Pakistan isn't watched at all times?

    Most Pakistani Muslims follow the Sunni Doctrine of Islam.
    . . . and the Islamic State terrorists are also Sunni, one of the reasons Iran is supporting the fight against ISIS
    “And I have no doubt that every new example will succeed, as every past one has done, in shewing that religion & Govt will both exist in greater purity, the less they are mixed together.”
    ~ James Madison, letter to Edward Livingston, July 10, 1822

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    Re: Obama Says Nuclear Deal Offered to Iran Is ‘Extraordinarily Reasonable’

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    1. Has Pakistan told the world its overarching desire is to wipe Israel off the map?
    2. Pakistan has India to keep an eye on them.
    3. Pakistan isn't run by religious zealots.
    4. Pakistan is our ally.
    5. Which country is a target of terrorists? Pakistan or Iran?
    1) Not as a statement issued by the government, but past actions such as Pakistani pilots fighting against Israeli pilots in the Six-Day War and the 1973 Yom Kippur War. Then there were agreements between Pakistan and the PLO for training army officers back in the '80s. Pakistani passports have the following words printed in them: This passport valid for all countries of the world except Israel

    2) Yes - one reason, Pakistan developed nuclear weapons. Technology which Pakistan then sold to North Korea and other nations.

    3) "isn't run by religious zealots" but they are extremely influential within the country

    4) Sort of an ally

    5) Both nations have been targeted. Much of Pakistan's present problems may be directly attributed to the failures of the early part of the Afghanistan War, along with long-simmering tribal and religious conflicts.
    “And I have no doubt that every new example will succeed, as every past one has done, in shewing that religion & Govt will both exist in greater purity, the less they are mixed together.”
    ~ James Madison, letter to Edward Livingston, July 10, 1822

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    Re: Obama Says Nuclear Deal Offered to Iran Is ‘Extraordinarily Reasonable’

    FALSE QUOTE


    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    1. Has Pakistan told the world its overarching desire is to wipe Israel off the map?
    2. Pakistan has India to keep an eye on them.
    3. Pakistan isn't run by religious zealots.
    4. Pakistan is our ally.
    5. Which country is a target of terrorists? Pakistan or Iran?
    ____________________

    Don't feel badly about being deceived about a deliberately planted misquote:

    RE: "1. Has Pakistan told the world its overarching desire is to wipe Israel off the map?"



    “Iranian leader did NOT call for Israel to be 'wiped off the map' or anything like it”
    The Insider - Iranian leader did NOT call for Israel to be 'wiped off the map' or anything like it
    EXCERPT “The rumour that Iran's leader threatened to "wipe Israel off the map" originated directly from officials in the US and Israel.

    The very first news articles in which the the "wiped off the map" claim ever appeared cite responses from western officials.

    This is because western officials were in fact the source of the mistranslation.”CONTINUED





    2., 3., & 4. are simply your opinions

    I've been to Iran. It's people are well educated, modern & actually like Americans in spite of the double standard the US Government employs
    under AIPAC's pressure

    However:

    "5.Which country is a target of terrorists? Pakistan or Iran?"


    Iran is the target of MEK and other U.S. / Israeli funded terrorist groups & Hit Squads


    Remember, Iran has attacked no one in 300+ years & has a secure & thriving Jewish community of 20,000 Jews


    However:

    You should be concerned about Right Wing Israeli fanatics who DO have a vast nuclear arsenal deployed around the world:

    “JEFFREY BLANKFORT: “ISRAEL IS THE MOST IMMEDIATE THREAT TO THE FUTURE OF THE PLANET”
    Jeff Blankfort: Israel threat to future of entire planet

    “Israeli Professor:’We Could Destroy All European*Capitals’
    http://pakalert.wordpress.com/2009/0...pean-capitals/

    “ISRAEL AIMS ITS NUCLEAR WARHEADS AT EUROPE”
    Israel aims its nuclear warheads at Europe

    "NUKE GAZA: A WORLD GONE MAD"
    NUKE GAZA: A WORLD GONE MAD | Veterans Today

    “Dayan's Mad Dog”
    THE CUNNING REALIST: Dayan's Mad Dog

    "Does Israel Make Us Safer? (Absolutely NOT!)
    Northerntruthseeker: Does Israel Make Us Safer? (Absolutely NOT!)


    "Israel Threatens The World"
    http://www.levi-tarot.co.uk/Israel_threatens.html

    ”How Israel's Nuclear Arsenal Endangers Us All”
    http://sabbah.biz/mt/archives/2009/0...angers-us-all/






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    Re: Obama Says Nuclear Deal Offered to Iran Is ‘Extraordinarily Reasonable’

    FALSE QUOTE


    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    1. Has Pakistan told the world its overarching desire is to wipe Israel off the map?
    2. Pakistan has India to keep an eye on them.
    3. Pakistan isn't run by religious zealots.
    4. Pakistan is our ally.
    5. Which country is a target of terrorists? Pakistan or Iran?
    ____________________

    Don't feel badly about being deceived about a deliberately planted misquote:

    RE: "1. Has Pakistan told the world its overarching desire is to wipe Israel off the map?"



    “Iranian leader did NOT call for Israel to be 'wiped off the map' or anything like it”
    The Insider - Iranian leader did NOT call for Israel to be 'wiped off the map' or anything like it
    EXCERPT “The rumour that Iran's leader threatened to "wipe Israel off the map" originated directly from officials in the US and Israel.

    The very first news articles in which the the "wiped off the map" claim ever appeared cite responses from western officials.

    This is because western officials were in fact the source of the mistranslation.”CONTINUED





    2., 3., & 4. are simply your opinions

    I've been to Iran. It's people are well educated, modern & actually like Americans in spite of the double standard the US Government employs
    under AIPAC's pressure

    However:

    "5.Which country is a target of terrorists? Pakistan or Iran?"


    Iran is the target of MEK and other U.S. / Israeli funded terrorist groups & Hit Squads


    Remember, Iran has attacked no one in 300+ years & has a secure & thriving Jewish community of 20,000 Jews


    However:

    You should be concerned about Right Wing Israeli fanatics who DO have a vast nuclear arsenal deployed around the world:

    “JEFFREY BLANKFORT: “ISRAEL IS THE MOST IMMEDIATE THREAT TO THE FUTURE OF THE PLANET”
    Jeff Blankfort: Israel threat to future of entire planet

    “Israeli Professor:’We Could Destroy All European*Capitals’
    http://pakalert.wordpress.com/2009/0...pean-capitals/

    “ISRAEL AIMS ITS NUCLEAR WARHEADS AT EUROPE”
    Israel aims its nuclear warheads at Europe

    "NUKE GAZA: A WORLD GONE MAD"
    NUKE GAZA: A WORLD GONE MAD | Veterans Today

    “Dayan's Mad Dog”
    THE CUNNING REALIST: Dayan's Mad Dog

    "Does Israel Make Us Safer? (Absolutely NOT!)
    Northerntruthseeker: Does Israel Make Us Safer? (Absolutely NOT!)


    "Israel Threatens The World"
    http://www.levi-tarot.co.uk/Israel_threatens.html

    ”How Israel's Nuclear Arsenal Endangers Us All”
    http://sabbah.biz/mt/archives/2009/0...angers-us-all/






    Thanks

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    Re: Obama Says Nuclear Deal Offered to Iran Is ‘Extraordinarily Reasonable’

    CORRECTION

    Multiple Comments were unintentional


    "FALSE QUOTE" changed to "MISQUOTE"



    Sorry

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    Re: Obama Says Nuclear Deal Offered to Iran Is ‘Extraordinarily Reasonable’

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    Well till they can be trusted.
    If not, then leave the present sanctions in place, and increase them.
    You mean let them go back to building the bomb. Why is that preferable to you?

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    Re: Obama Says Nuclear Deal Offered to Iran Is ‘Extraordinarily Reasonable’

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    You mean let them go back to building the bomb. Why is that preferable to you?
    Do you prefer to bomb them?
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    Re: Obama Says Nuclear Deal Offered to Iran Is ‘Extraordinarily Reasonable’

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    If you're looking for some sort of long-term, perfect guarantee, I don't know what to tell you. The universe does not work that way.
    Sometimes the use or threat of force certainly does provide perfect guarantees, or very nearly perfect ones. How much trouble did Rome have with Carthage after the Third Punic War, when it completely destroyed it? How much concern about a surprise attack by Japan has the U.S. had since 1945? How vanishingly small is the probability that North Korea will invade across the 38th parallel, having had thousands of U.S. troops right in its way for the past sixty years?

    The notion that there is no effective way to prevent the regime in Tehran from making nuclear weapons is nonsense. It provides a convenient excuse for everyone who lacks the nerve to confront these bastards. In October, 1962, the same type of hand-wringer would have been claiming the U.S. had no choice but to accept the Soviet nuclear missiles in Cuba, because there was nothing we could do to guarantee their removal. And yet in the end, every last one of those missiles was removed, along with every last one of the 158 nuclear weapons that had been brought to Cuba and all the equipment that accompanied these things.

    Where there is a will, there is a way.

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    Re: Obama Says Nuclear Deal Offered to Iran Is ‘Extraordinarily Reasonable’

    The GOP is going to drag us into another ****ing 10 year war. Thier kids won't be the ones going, so why would those selfish, war mongering bastards care?

    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/10/wo...=top-news&_r=0

    Angry White House and G.O.P. Senators Clash Over Letter to Iran
    By PETER BAKERMARCH 9, 2015
    WASHINGTON — The fractious debate over a possible nuclear deal with Iran escalated on Monday as 47 Republican senators warned Iran against making an agreement with President Obama and the White House accused them of undercutting foreign policy.

    In an exceedingly rare direct congressional intervention into diplomatic negotiations, the Republicans sent an open letter addressed to “leaders of the Islamic Republic of Iran” declaring that any agreement could be reversed by the next president “with the stroke of a pen.”

    The letter appeared aimed at unraveling an agreement even as negotiators grow close to reaching it. Mr. Obama, working with leaders of five other world powers, argues that the emerging agreement would be the best way to keep Iran from obtaining a nuclear bomb, while critics from both parties contend that it would be a dangerous charade that would still leave Iran with the opportunity to eventually build weapons that could destroy Israel or other foes.

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