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    Re: Obama Says Nuclear Deal Offered to Iran Is ‘Extraordinarily Reasonable’

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    Well till they can be trusted.
    If not, then leave the present sanctions in place, and increase them.
    You aren't ever going to trust them.
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    Re: Obama Says Nuclear Deal Offered to Iran Is ‘Extraordinarily Reasonable’

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    You aren't ever going to trust them.
    Wrong- You have no basis on which to make that observation.
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    Re: Obama Says Nuclear Deal Offered to Iran Is ‘Extraordinarily Reasonable’

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    They stopped quite some time ago.
    Are you for war or sanctions if the deal falls thru?
    I will go with sanctions until its proven they have nuclear capabilities.

    However, do you think sanctions will prevent Iran from attaining nuclear capabilities?

    Will sanctions prevent Iran from continuing to be one of the biggest state sponsors of terrorism in the world?

    What do you think should happen if Iran gets the "bomb?"
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    Re: Obama Says Nuclear Deal Offered to Iran Is ‘Extraordinarily Reasonable’

    You'd have to be foolish to believe that Iran would only go so far in nuclear technology. Any country in constant wars would want the biggest weapon. If you don't think they're quickly trying to reach a point where a Western Power could threaten them for not following a contract and they could, with all intentions and the arms to back them, tell us to bring it, knowing full well we could be starting an apocalyptic war and thus decide to back down, and use that as a means to keep doing what they deem necessary for the future of their country, you are blind and allowing your heart to interfere with commonsense.

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    Re: Obama Says Nuclear Deal Offered to Iran Is ‘Extraordinarily Reasonable’

    Iran has only two objectives and everything they've done is directed toward those objectives.

    1. Be the biggest dog in the Middle East yard.

    2. Destroy Israel.

    The world has only two choices:

    1. Allow them to achieve their objectives.

    2. Prevent them from achieving their objectives.

    I believe prevention will ultimately come down to waging war with the country, destroying their nuclear program and removing their government from power.

    Iran has made their choices...the world must make theirs.
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    Re: Obama Says Nuclear Deal Offered to Iran Is ‘Extraordinarily Reasonable’

    I don't really care THAT much whether Iran has nukes or not...though I would rather they did not if pressed. But it's no big deal to me.

    They will never use them, because if they did either or both Israel/America would obliterate Iran within an hour in retaliation. So why would Iran ever use them (the question is rhetorical)?

    Besides, if Israel has them (which despite their silence, they obviously do), I cannot fault Iran for wanting them.

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    Re: Obama Says Nuclear Deal Offered to Iran Is ‘Extraordinarily Reasonable’

    Quote Originally Posted by Μολὼν λαβέ View Post
    I will go with sanctions until its proven they have nuclear capabilities.

    However, do you think sanctions will prevent Iran from attaining nuclear capabilities?

    Will sanctions prevent Iran from continuing to be one of the biggest state sponsors of terrorism in the world?

    What do you think should happen if Iran gets the "bomb?"
    Impose sanctions in place if they get - go for the bomb.
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    Re: Obama Says Nuclear Deal Offered to Iran Is ‘Extraordinarily Reasonable’

    I do not understand why America's right is so focused on Iran. Pakistan is a country which has nuclear weapons and is far less stable than Iran. Is it the relative closeness of Iran to Israel? Is it the result of right-wing Israeli propaganda?

    Things may change in a couple weeks if Netanyahu and the Likud lose the upcoming elections. Presently, Likud and the Zionist Union parties are basically tied in polling
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    Re: Obama Says Nuclear Deal Offered to Iran Is ‘Extraordinarily Reasonable’

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    I do not understand why America's right is so focused on Iran. Pakistan is a country which has nuclear weapons and is far less stable than Iran. Is it the relative closeness of Iran to Israel? Is it the result of right-wing Israeli propaganda?

    Things may change in a couple weeks if Netanyahu and the Likud lose the upcoming elections. Presently, Likud and the Zionist Union parties are basically tied in polling
    Do you think Pakistan isn't watched at all times?

    Most Pakistani Muslims follow the Sunni Doctrine of Islam.

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    Re: Obama Says Nuclear Deal Offered to Iran Is ‘Extraordinarily Reasonable’

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    I don't really care THAT much whether Iran has nukes or not...though I would rather they did not if pressed. But it's no big deal to me.

    They will never use them, because if they did either or both Israel/America would obliterate Iran within an hour in retaliation. So why would Iran ever use them (the question is rhetorical)?

    Besides, if Israel has them (which despite their silence, they obviously do), I cannot fault Iran for wanting them.

    Mornin DA. Don't forget the Saud doesn't want Iran with a Nuke.....and said if they get one. The Saud will follow. Which we already know they have a deal with the Pakistani.

    Also, then Egypt will certainly get theirs.

    Question is.....is a Nuclear Armed ME better or worse for all others.

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