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    Re: Obama Says Nuclear Deal Offered to Iran Is ‘Extraordinarily Reasonable’

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Heya JF. Looks like the Iranians say that is a deal breaker. Of course their apologists here. Didn't have any excuses they could help Iran cover with. I did like the California Democrat who came out and called BO peeps deal preposterous. Just another Democrat that woke up.



    Surprise: Iranians Add New Demand In Nuke Talks......

    Tehran’s negotiators in Switzerland, according to these diplomats, have hardened their position that United Nations sanctions on their country be repealed at the front end of any deal reached this month with the U.S. and other global powers. The U.S. and its European allies are demanding the U.N.’s sanctions be suspended or terminated in a phased time-frame over years. They believe sanctions relief should only come after Iran addresses concerns about its past nuclear work and is given a clean bill of health by the U.N.’s nuclear watchdog, the International Atomic Energy Agency. The Iranians “say it’s a deal breaker. They don’t want it at all,” said a senior European diplomat involved in the Lausanne talks, referring to Iran’s position on the U.N. sanctions. “There’s no way that we would give up on that…. No way.”

    Congressional leaders have begun pressuring their colleagues to cut off all U.S. funding for the ongoing talks with Iran over its contested nuclear program as the Obama administration rushes to hash out the details of a deal in the coming months, according to multiple sources and a letter that will be sent next week to appropriators in the House of Representatives. With the deadline approaching, congressional Republicans have been exasperated by the Obama administration’s efforts to prevent them from having any oversight over the deal. Reps. Peter Roskam (R., Ill.) and Lee Zeldin (R., N.Y.) are now petitioning their colleagues on the House Appropriations Committee to prohibit all taxpayer funding for the talks, the Washington Free Beacon has learned. This would purge all U.S. funds available to Obama administration officials for travel abroad, hotel stays, and any other activities related to the P5+1 talks with Iran.

    Rep. Brad Sherman (D-Calif.) on Thursday slammed the Obama administration for arguing that a diplomatic pact will prevent Iran from building nuclear weapons, calling it a “preposterous argument.” Sherman’s remarks came during an exchange in Congress with Deputy Secretary of State Tony Blinken. The lawmaker said Iran had proven itself untrustworthy during previous nuclear negotiations. “Obviously, they’re willing to break the law,” Sherman said, noting Tehran’s repeated violations of past U.N. mandates and diplomatic treaties.....snip~

    Surprise: Iranians Add New Demand In Nuke Talks - Guy Benson
    Sanctions are and should be suspended over time. Any impediment by Iran of inspections by the IAEA would also be a deal breaker. Inspections should be intrusive. Withholding information or denying access sanctions back in place.
    They have been stating for some time that they want all sanctions lifted with a signed deal.
    Suspension of sanctions would enable their implementation quickly in the event Iran does not adhere to a deal.
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    Re: Obama Says Nuclear Deal Offered to Iran Is ‘Extraordinarily Reasonable’

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    I LOVE my treaty partners with a side helping of "Death to America". You just know its all going to work out great.
    But John Kerry, war hero that he is, soldiers on. Khamenei calls 'Death to America' as Kerry hails progress on nuke deal | The Times of Israel

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    Re: Obama Says Nuclear Deal Offered to Iran Is ‘Extraordinarily Reasonable’

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    Sanctions are and should be suspended over time. Any impediment by Iran of inspections by the IAEA would also be a deal breaker. Inspections should be intrusive. Withholding information or denying access sanctions back in place.
    They have been stating for some time that they want all sanctions lifted with a signed deal.
    Suspension of sanctions would enable their implementation quickly in the event Iran does not adhere to a deal.
    Mornin JF. Yeah with regards to the sanctions and their Ballistics needs to be on the table. Also to include inspections and access to any new reactors bought from Russia.

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    Re: Obama Says Nuclear Deal Offered to Iran Is ‘Extraordinarily Reasonable’

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Mornin JF. Yeah with regards to the sanctions and their Ballistics needs to be on the table. Also to include inspections and access to any new reactors bought from Russia.
    My opinion has been long term, longer than 10 years and intrusive inspections
    Some may want war. And it is normally US assets that are used. Appears if that happens, the Saudi's, Jordan, Egypt and others get the "was not us card".
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    Re: Obama Says Nuclear Deal Offered to Iran Is ‘Extraordinarily Reasonable’

    It is none of America's business if Iran wants to build nuclear weapons.

    Just like the reverse is true.


    And, I have said it umpteen times. Even if Iran had nukes, they would NEVER use them first against America or Israel as it would mean their immediate destruction.

    This whole 'stop Iran from getting nukes' nonsense is just the American ignorant masses being paranoid because the media/politicians they watch tells them to be.

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    Re: Obama Says Nuclear Deal Offered to Iran Is ‘Extraordinarily Reasonable’

    Quote Originally Posted by mbig
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    Hey ..
    You got EVERY Conspiracy/Hate/Arabist site on the Internet into Two posts on ONE Page!
    Globalresearch', americanfreepress, alBawaba, counterLunch, wrmea, and several even Further off the deep end.... LOFL!
    Marine Baracks, USS Cole, etc, all Mossad 'False Flags'!


    Take it to the CONSPIRACY Section or back to Ummah.bomb

    What a JOKE your posts are. EVERY one an Wacky Arabist misquote calamity and OFF Topic as well.
    I-P discussions are strictly confined to the M-E/I-P Section.

    If you'd ever like to debate ANY I-P topic, there's a Section for it, and I'd be glad to destroy you
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    Welcome to the internet
    They're actually called "Independent Media" and are more equitable than your tightly censored Major Media Monopoly
    Bring your Hasbara Handbook
    & "destroy" away
    As you can tell, I AM Already familiar with the Internet and it's websites.
    I have been debating the M-E/I-P topic for 15 years (pre-'Hasbara') and probably 100 other message boards. (Arab and Hate sites among them)
    I've seen it all, and am familiar with it All.

    Your sites are LOW BROW GARBAGE.

    There ARE Plenty of more scholarly pro-Palestinian websites/sources, and they probably Outnumber the pro-Israel ones.
    In fact, the best Case for 'palestine' has been made by Israeli Leftist scholars "New Historians" like Benny Morris, Pappe, etc.

    In your "hello" string you say you've been 'studying' the M-E for years, yet all your sources are Mickey Mouse Conspiracy sites.
    Very disappointing.
    Also, the way you 'Link Dump' them/your repertoire, at the drop of a hat, in large bunches, shows a pre-loaded 'fervor' totally uncalled for by the post you're 'responding' to.

    I have app 2500 of my 8100 posts and String Starts in the ME-/I-P section.
    Most are obviously WAY over your head, but by all means, Have at them.
    I see you Have Not made a single post there,
    http://www.debatepolitics.com/israel-palestine/
    despite stealthily posting mostly on that topic Elsewhere.

    Perhaps you read the rules for posting there, and realize just how Off the wall your material is.

    Oh, one more thing...
    Assuming any/all generally Pro-Israel posters are 'Hasbara'/working for the Israeli govt, is also Conspiracyst and Bigoted, but consistent with everything else you've Blighted the board with so far.
    Can't wait for more of your "independent Media", like Rense, infowars, WhatReallyHappened, PrisonPlanet, etc.

    The M-E/I-P section still awaits your arrival despite you being here a Month and that being your claimed specialty!
    http://www.debatepolitics.com/come-a...post1064354457

    .."Since I've spent much of my time in & Studying the Mid East & events that influence its conflict, I've seen that Civility can come at a premium & can be life saving."..

    Do you imagine Dumping Dozens of Conspiracy websites in each post, and calling everyone on the other side "Hasbara" is "civility"?
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    Re: Obama Says Nuclear Deal Offered to Iran Is ‘Extraordinarily Reasonable’

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    My opinion has been long term, longer than 10 years and intrusive inspections
    Some may want war. And it is normally US assets that are used. Appears if that happens, the Saudi's, Jordan, Egypt and others get the "was not us card".
    Well Right now.....the Saud don't seem to have much faith in us. So they have informed others. What Iran is allowed to do. Applies to them too.

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    Re: Obama Says Nuclear Deal Offered to Iran Is ‘Extraordinarily Reasonable’

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Well Right now.....the Saud don't seem to have much faith in us. So they have informed others. What Iran is allowed to do. Applies to them too.
    If it is a bad deal, well Congress will have more then enough votes to implement sanctions and overridden a veto.
    Reading an article today where Clapper stated 1 year breakout would not provide enough time to implement sanctions. UN, Veto, all the other impediments that go with it.

    Iran can now build and deliver nukes, US intel reports | The Times of Israel
    In the “US Intelligence Worldwide Threat Assessment,” delivered to the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, Clapper reported that Tehran has made significant advances recently in its nuclear program to the point where it could produce and deliver nuclear bombs should it be so inclined.

    “Tehran has made technical progress in a number of areas — including uranium enrichment, nuclear reactors, and ballistic missiles — from which it could draw if it decided to build missile-deliverable nuclear weapons,” Clapper wrote. “These technical advancements strengthen our assessment that Iran has the scientific, technical, and industrial capacity to eventually produce nuclear weapons. This makes the central issue its political will to do so.”
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    Re: Obama Says Nuclear Deal Offered to Iran Is ‘Extraordinarily Reasonable’

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    It is none of America's business if Iran wants to build nuclear weapons.
    It is when Iran's Supreme Leader is calling for "Death To America".
    And, I have said it umpteen times. Even if Iran had nukes, they would NEVER use them first against America or Israel as it would mean their immediate destruction.
    You can say it another umpteen times but, as we have seen many times over the years, Islamic fanatics have no compunction about committing suicide, or encouraging others to die for their cause.
    This whole 'stop Iran from getting nukes' nonsense is just the American ignorant masses being paranoid because the media/politicians they watch tells them to be.
    I'll agree if you're referring to American Leftists but wouldn't look to any Islamic country for serious signs of sophisticated intelligence.

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    Re: Obama Says Nuclear Deal Offered to Iran Is ‘Extraordinarily Reasonable’

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    If it is a bad deal, well Congress will have more then enough votes to implement sanctions and overridden a veto.
    Reading an article today where Clapper stated 1 year breakout would not provide enough time to implement sanctions. UN, Veto, all the other impediments that go with it.

    Iran can now build and deliver nukes, US intel reports | The Times of Israel

    Well Brennan was on Fox News Sunday.....when asked about the Hidden facility in Tehran or just outside of it, he wouldn't give any answer. Other than to say that he is confident that we know where their locations are. Which my point is.....if none has inspected nor even seen the place. Then how can we get an accurate report from the AEIA.

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