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    Re: Obama Says Nuclear Deal Offered to Iran Is ‘Extraordinarily Reasonable’

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    The first announcement from the White House acknowledging Nowruz (Persian New Year) was issued by George H W Bush in 1991. Clinton and George W Bush continued the practice. Here's a link to the 2007 announcement -- George W. Bush: Message on the Observance of Nowruz
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    Re: Obama Says Nuclear Deal Offered to Iran Is ‘Extraordinarily Reasonable’

    ANOTHER SLICE OF YELLOW CAKE

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Why didn't you just post that. Why'd you quote me, you responded to nothing I said. And what troubles you about the WH celebrating an Iranian, or Palestinian, or Russian or Israeli holiday? What's the big deal. And sense both Israeli and US intelligence say that Iran isn't building nuclear weapons, why are your knickers knotted?
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    Obviously, you've learned by now that America's destructive Pro-War, "Israel Firsters" (aka Ziono-Cons) are obsessed with maintaining the egregious double standard that is exemplified by America's AIPAC driven Mid East policy.

    You can be sure that the loudest proponents of war with Iran will remain safely entrenched, far away with their Hasbara Handbook. While loyal Americans have learned the fatally flawed folly leading up to the last war against non existent WMDs, others simply want the US to do Israel's dirty work, again:


    “Quietly lobbying Congress to approve the use of force in Iraq was one of AIPAC’s successes over the past year”
    AIPAC Executive Director Howard Kohr; N.Y. Sun; Jan. ’03


    Neither of us has or will ever get an honest and rational "response" explaining why any Israeli Nuclear Arsenal, War Crime, Invasion, atrocity and betrayal of the US should be rewarded with $ Trillions & thousands of US lives while attacking a peaceful Iran & funding 60 years of illegal, Palestinian persecution is essential.

    While Iran has attacked no one in 300 years, Israel attacks all of its neighbors (1), continues "Peace Breaking" illegal Settlements & repeatedly betrayed the US (2).:


    (1) “Begin’s Admission in 1982 That Israel Started Three of Its Wars”
http://www.wrmea.com/backissues/0794/9407073.htm


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    EXCERPT “The secret file, written by the Soviet Ambassador in Cairo, Vladimir M. Vinogradov..... describes the 1973 October War as a collusive enterprise between US, Egyptian and Israeli leaders, orchestrated by Henry Kissinger.”CONTINUED
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    (2)

    “Israel’s Use of False Flags in Global Terrorism”
    WEB EXCLUSIVE: Israel’s Use of False Flags in Global Terrorism | American Free Press

    EXCERPT “The use of “false flag” operations by Israel and its Mossad has been documented repeatedly since the Jewish State first came into being. CONTINUED


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    “U.S.S. COLE ATTACKED BY ISRAEL”
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    “The Lavon Affair: When Israel Firebombed U.S. Installations”
    http://www.washington-report.org/com...allations.html



    “Beirut Marine bombing was Mossad False Flag*Operation”
    http://rehmat1.wordpress.com/2009/09...lag-operation/

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    The only hope for a peaceful Mid East is an even handed & equitable treatment of all parties & putting the loudest War Mongers on the Front Lines.


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    Re: Obama Says Nuclear Deal Offered to Iran Is ‘Extraordinarily Reasonable’

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    The only hope for a peaceful Mid East is an even handed & equitable treatment of all parties & putting the loudest War Mongers on the Front Lines.

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    Do you have a link that describes what the Palestinians think "equitable treatment of all parties" looks like?

    Will it look like this:

    Q: What do Palestinians seek?
    A: Palestinians, depending on where they live, face different challenges and thus have different concerns. However, what they all have in common is a basic desire for freedom and equal rights.

    Palestinians living in Israel seek rights that are equal to Jewish citizens of the state as well as self-determination. Palestinians living in the West Bank and Gaza Strip seek an end to the Israeli military's domination of every aspect of their daily lives - whether through direct military occupation, as in the West Bank, or control from without, as in the case of the Gaza Strip - and rights to freedom and national self-determination, equal to those of other national groups. And Palestinian refugees and others living in exile want the right to return to their homes, if they so desire, or to receive compensation and support for resettlement, just like other refugee populations in the world.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5hKSMtw94c
    Or will it look like this:

    The Jews are the colonialists, the Arabs are the indiginous population. The 2 State solution should be rejected because it implicitly recognizes Israel’s existence. In other words, the creation of a Jewish state was a huge mistake, and the answer to the world’s problems is to remove Israel from the map, create one big Palestinian state, and return the Jews to their dhimmi status under the Arabs.

    What Do Palestinians Really Want? « Why Israel?

    Side question: What do YOU want?
    TANSTAAFL

    “An armed society is a polite society.”
    ― Robert A. Heinlein, Beyond This Horizon

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    Re: Obama Says Nuclear Deal Offered to Iran Is ‘Extraordinarily Reasonable’

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    Do you have a link that describes what the Palestinians think "equitable treatment of all parties" looks like?

    Will it look like this:



    Or will it look like this:




    Side question: What do YOU want?

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    For starters I imagine that the native Christian & Muslim Residents would like to return to life before the invasion of foreign,
    Zionist Terrorist Gangs whose Plan Dalet has been & remains the clearly articulated "Ethnic Cleansing" of Palestine's non Jews:



    "ISRAEL'S PLAN DALET"; THE GREEN LIGHT FOR ZIONISM'S ETHNIC CLEANSING OF PALESTINE"

    Israel’s “Plan Dalet”: The Green Light for Zionism

    EXCERPT “On that day in 1948, two months before Israel’s unilateral declaration of independence in defiance of the will of the organized international community as it then was at the UN, Zionism’s in-Palestine political and military leaders met in Tel Aviv to formally adopt PLAN DALET, the blueprint with operational military orders for the ethnic cleansing of Palestine.”CONTINUED

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    What parts of the following statements do you not understand?:


    "Our strategy was always to provoke the Arabs and get an appropriate response so we could attack and smash them".
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    “Moshe Sharett; Diaries”


    "(The Palestinians) would be crushed like grasshoppers ... heads smashed
    against the boulders and walls." -- Isreali Prime Minister (at the time) Yitzhak
    Shamir in a speech to Jewish settlers New York Times April 1, 1988


    "We will carry out a greater holocaust against the Palestinians," Matan Vilnai, Deputy israeli Defense Minister
    Northerntruthseeker: Does Israel Make Us Safer? (Absolutely NOT!)


    “..... most Palestinians “were born to die—we just have to help them.”CONTINUED
    Amiram Levin, former head of the Israeli army’s northern command


    “I am not looking for a solution, I am looking for a way to manage the conflict” “Defense Minister Ya'alon:
    Defense Minister Ya’alon: I am not looking for a solution, I am looking for a way to manage the conflict | +972 Magazine


    "We have to kill all the Palestinians unless they are resigned to live here as
    slaves." Chairman Heilbrun of the Committee for the Re-election of General
    Shlomo Lahat as mayor of Tel Aviv, 1983.


    "What happened in the Dahiya quarter of Beirut in 2006 will happen in every village from which Israel is fired on. […] We will apply disproportionate force on it and cause great damage and destruction there. From our standpoint, these are not civilian villages, they are military bases." Maj. Gen. Gadi Eizenkot


    *Re: Palestinian Mothers "They have to die and their houses should be demolished so that they cannot bear any more terrorists.”
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    Re: Obama Says Nuclear Deal Offered to Iran Is ‘Extraordinarily Reasonable’

    Quote Originally Posted by B'smith View Post
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    For starters I imagine that the native Christian & Muslim Residents would like to return to life before the invasion of foreign,

    ~snipped everything else because it has no bearing on my question~
    Your "for starters" doesn't answer my question. What does "equitable treatment of all parties" look like?

    Look, I KNOW you don't like Israel. You don't have to keep repeating yourself about that. But can you be honest and just state what the Palestinians want...and what you want?
    TANSTAAFL

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    Re: Obama Says Nuclear Deal Offered to Iran Is ‘Extraordinarily Reasonable’

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    Do you have a link that describes what the Palestinians think "equitable treatment of all parties" looks like?





    Side question: What do YOU want?
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    What do I want?

    For starters, I would like to see a Forum section discussing Israel's US subsidized, multi-billion dollar, State supported Propaganda (Hasbara) Industry including its its "Megaphone" software, Wikipedia editing teams, Hasbara Handbook, Global Language Dictionary. -
    etc

    Additionally, it is only fair that all of Israel's network of paid, full time, scripted & trained, State supported Hasbara Trolls should be clearly indicated as such for forum users unfamiliar with such an extensive & clandestine disinformation Industry.


    Anything else?

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    Re: Obama Says Nuclear Deal Offered to Iran Is ‘Extraordinarily Reasonable’

    Did he read it like he read Obamacare?
    It's nothing more than X's and O's.

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    Re: Obama Says Nuclear Deal Offered to Iran Is ‘Extraordinarily Reasonable’

    Quote Originally Posted by B'smith View Post
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    What do I want?

    For starters, I would like to see a Forum section discussing Israel's US subsidized, multi-billion dollar, State supported Propaganda (Hasbara) Industry including its its "Megaphone" software, Wikipedia editing teams, Hasbara Handbook, Global Language Dictionary. -
    etc

    Additionally, it is only fair that all of Israel's network of paid, full time, scripted & trained, State supported Hasbara Trolls should be clearly indicated as such for forum users unfamiliar with such an extensive & clandestine disinformation Industry.


    Anything else?
    Well, again, I ask that you answer my questions?

    I didn't ask what you want in this forum. Heck, I don't have a bit of power and couldn't give you what you want even if, by chance, I wanted to give it to you.

    But why are you avoiding my questions? Are you afraid to answer? Do you even HAVE an answer?
    TANSTAAFL

    “An armed society is a polite society.”
    ― Robert A. Heinlein, Beyond This Horizon

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    Re: Obama Says Nuclear Deal Offered to Iran Is ‘Extraordinarily Reasonable’

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    Well, again, I ask that you answer my questions?

    I didn't ask what you want in this forum. Heck, I don't have a bit of power and couldn't give you what you want even if, by chance, I wanted to give it to you.

    But why are you avoiding my questions? Are you afraid to answer? Do you even HAVE an answer?
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    I intended to give a more "On Topic" response without sounding like a Miss America contestant but got busy with s/t else today.

    I'll gladly respond, thoroughly, tomorrow.

    Thanks

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    Re: Obama Says Nuclear Deal Offered to Iran Is ‘Extraordinarily Reasonable’

    Quote Originally Posted by B'smith View Post
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    I intended to give a more "On Topic" response without sounding like a Miss America contestant but got busy with s/t else today.

    I'll gladly respond, thoroughly, tomorrow.

    Thanks
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