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    Re: Boko Haram swears formal allegiance to ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    I post a lot. I didn't know I was supposed to meet some link quota for you.
    No one even said you didn't post a lot.....but thanks for validating out why you can't figure **** out.

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    Re: Boko Haram swears formal allegiance to ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    No one even said you didn't post a lot.....but thanks for validating out why you can't figure **** out.
    Do you actually have anything worthwhile to say?
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    Re: Boko Haram swears formal allegiance to ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    I post a lot. I didn't know I was supposed to meet some link quota for you.
    You post a lot but never seem to say anything. I'd like to see more substance to your posts.

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    Re: Boko Haram swears formal allegiance to ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    You post a lot but never seem to say anything. I'd like to see more substance to your posts.
    I don't give a **** about what you'd like.
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    Re: Boko Haram swears formal allegiance to ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Do you actually have anything worthwhile to say?

    Yeah.....but this still doesn't help you out. Just sayin.

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    Re: Boko Haram swears formal allegiance to ISIS

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    Quote Originally Posted by BringIt View Post
    In a related story...

    Obama to Nigerian Christians: Change Laws on Abortion, Homosexuality If You Want Protection from Boko Haram


    Obama to Nigerian Christians: Change Laws on Abortion, Homosexuality If You Want Protection from Boko Haram | The Gateway Pundit
    Noting that homosexuality is punishable by death and Nigeria has/had death squads out hunting homosexuals and rape exists at epidemic levels; Nigerian government can't protect women from rape or provide economic opportunity for a woman to support a child, but they are fully willing and able to drive into a coat hangar abortion scenario. They don't have to legalize gay marriage, but executing people for exercising their right of self-determination raises doubt over the value of investing in their defense.
    Bishop Emmanuel Badejo may have said the US is delaying help for Nigeria against Boko Haram because of laws on homosexuality and abortion but this is not true and it is not the reason for Nigeria not getting help in time against Boko Haram. The "gatewaypundit" website article is painfully ignorant of facts on the ground and has little factual basis behind it.

    I lived in Nigeria and I do not recall death squads now or ever hunting down homosexuals. Homosexuality in Nigeria is actually quite common, even among muslims and it only becomes a problem when a homosexual decides to go against African tradition and refuses to father any offspring i.e. becomes a "western lifestyle homosexual."

    If a Nigerian homosexual marries a woman, fathers children and lives a homosexual life, nobody is bothered. (As long as he has done his "duty" and fathered children.)

    These death squads may exist in Borno state under Boko Haram's IS style conditions but none of my Nigerian friends still in Nigeria have ever seen or heard about death squads for homosexuals. The British and US governments have both got very legitimate concerns over the training and seriousness of the Nigerian position on Boko Haram and that is one of the major reasons for the withholding of greater training or equipment.

    If you look at events on the ground, Boko Haram made a serious mistake in attacking Chad, Cameroon and Niger this year - these states have all had major successes in attacking and defeating Boko Haram and have also been involved in defeating BH in Nigeria. In fact those successes are all notably lacking by the far better armed and larger Nigerian army.

    Why? Because of the traidional Nigerian problems of incompetence, corruption and poor training.

    Nothing to do with Barack Obama / abortion / homosexuality / rape.

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    Re: Boko Haram swears formal allegiance to ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Greetings, matchlight.

    So this religious war could go on for another 1300 years? Why are we even involved then? New fanatics are probably being born as we speak...
    The idea that we can sit back and let these hotheads slaughter each other over whose version of Islam is correct, or over some other disputed issue, may be comforting--but doing that would be very dangerous for this country. These jihadists have more resources and an even larger and better-connected safe haven than the people behind 9/11 had in Afghanistan in the years before those attacks. They are also every bit as fanatically determined to kill as many of us as they can.

    We are seeing is partly the result of this president's failure to leave a force of 15-20,000 in Iraq, as military experts recommended. That would have been a somewhat smaller version, probably differing in some other ways, from the force the U.S. has maintained in South Korea since the Korean War petered out in 1953. The U.S. military has to be based somewhere, and we have been basing much of it there, in Germany, and elsewhere overseas for many years. Iraq had been made peaceful enough that the risk to a powerful residual force, supported by unlimited air power, would have been fairly low. And yet this president, for his personal political gain, used the existence of a status of forces agreement he could certainly have changed, if he had had the will, as an excuse to leave Iraq wide open to what has now happened.

    The chaos in Iraq and Syria is also partly the result of six years of Obama's continual appeasement of the mullahs who rule Iran. They see no threat from him, and that has encouraged them not only to extend their influence in Iraq, but also to increase both their support of the Assad regime in Syria and of their proxy force Hizballah in Lebanon. This westward Shiite pressure from Iran encouraged the Sunni jihadists in Syria to fight Assad, and it also encouraged nations across the Persian Gulf from Iran to provide covert aid to these jihadists. Which they have been doing. In order to line up Obama's largely symbolic five-nation Arab "coalition" against the jihadists in Syria and Iraq, the U.S. had to agree that Qatar, et al. would only fly air strikes (such as they were) against ISIS forces, but not against those of al Nusra, or other jihadists they identified as affiliated with al Qaeda.

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    Re: Boko Haram swears formal allegiance to ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    You post a lot but never seem to say anything. I'd like to see more substance to your posts.
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    Re: Boko Haram swears formal allegiance to ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    The idea that we can sit back and let these hotheads slaughter each other over whose version of Islam is correct, or over some other disputed issue, may be comforting--but doing that would be very dangerous for this country. These jihadists have more resources and an even larger and better-connected safe haven than the people behind 9/11 had in Afghanistan in the years before those attacks. They are also every bit as fanatically determined to kill as many of us as they can.

    We are seeing is partly the result of this president's failure to leave a force of 15-20,000 in Iraq, as military experts recommended. That would have been a somewhat smaller version, probably differing in some other ways, from the force the U.S. has maintained in South Korea since the Korean War petered out in 1953. The U.S. military has to be based somewhere, and we have been basing much of it there, in Germany, and elsewhere overseas for many years. Iraq had been made peaceful enough that the risk to a powerful residual force, supported by unlimited air power, would have been fairly low. And yet this president, for his personal political gain, used the existence of a status of forces agreement he could certainly have changed, if he had had the will, as an excuse to leave Iraq wide open to what has now happened.

    The chaos in Iraq and Syria is also partly the result of six years of Obama's continual appeasement of the mullahs who rule Iran. They see no threat from him, and that has encouraged them not only to extend their influence in Iraq, but also to increase both their support of the Assad regime in Syria and of their proxy force Hizballah in Lebanon. This westward Shiite pressure from Iran encouraged the Sunni jihadists in Syria to fight Assad, and it also encouraged nations across the Persian Gulf from Iran to provide covert aid to these jihadists. Which they have been doing. In order to line up Obama's largely symbolic five-nation Arab "coalition" against the jihadists in Syria and Iraq, the U.S. had to agree that Qatar, et al. would only fly air strikes (such as they were) against ISIS forces, but not against those of al Nusra, or other jihadists they identified as affiliated with al Qaeda.
    We're trying to halt or slow this mess, and we have to agree to their rules on who can do what? This sounds like "half-fixing" a problem to me - getting rid of some, so others can take over the leadership role. Did we agree to this?

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    Re: Boko Haram swears formal allegiance to ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    The idea that we can sit back and let these hotheads slaughter each other over whose version of Islam is correct, or over some other disputed issue, may be comforting--but doing that would be very dangerous for this country. These jihadists have more resources and an even larger and better-connected safe haven than the people behind 9/11 had in Afghanistan in the years before those attacks. They are also every bit as fanatically determined to kill as many of us as they can.

    We are seeing is partly the result of this president's failure to leave a force of 15-20,000 in Iraq, as military experts recommended. That would have been a somewhat smaller version, probably differing in some other ways, from the force the U.S. has maintained in South Korea since the Korean War petered out in 1953. The U.S. military has to be based somewhere, and we have been basing much of it there, in Germany, and elsewhere overseas for many years. Iraq had been made peaceful enough that the risk to a powerful residual force, supported by unlimited air power, would have been fairly low. And yet this president, for his personal political gain, used the existence of a status of forces agreement he could certainly have changed, if he had had the will, as an excuse to leave Iraq wide open to what has now happened.

    The chaos in Iraq and Syria is also partly the result of six years of Obama's continual appeasement of the mullahs who rule Iran. They see no threat from him, and that has encouraged them not only to extend their influence in Iraq, but also to increase both their support of the Assad regime in Syria and of their proxy force Hizballah in Lebanon. This westward Shiite pressure from Iran encouraged the Sunni jihadists in Syria to fight Assad, and it also encouraged nations across the Persian Gulf from Iran to provide covert aid to these jihadists. Which they have been doing. In order to line up Obama's largely symbolic five-nation Arab "coalition" against the jihadists in Syria and Iraq, the U.S. had to agree that Qatar, et al. would only fly air strikes (such as they were) against ISIS forces, but not against those of al Nusra, or other jihadists they identified as affiliated with al Qaeda.
    And as the west does nothing their power and influence will only grow.

    We are spectators in the game of world domination and although the next US President may well be the leader the west needs, will (s)he arrive in time?

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