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    Re: Obama and Others at Selma

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Invisible View Post
    Look who is changing the goal posts. You originally challenged me to find marches and protests against black on black crime, but now that you have them you suddenly want to change up.
    Huh huh.

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    Re: Obama and Others at Selma

    Quote Originally Posted by Zinthaniel View Post
    So you are moving the goal post?

    I was talking about the vast majority of the black population in this country that have white, i.e. European, genes in them.

    You are the one who wants to be meticulous about this. If they are part white then they are part white - that has been your sentiment. It is a fact after all.

    Genetic percentages vary no matter how close a relative of a different race is. You can have a black mother and white father and end up with more genetic make up from your father. Making your genetic percentage primarily white.

    Genetically speaking, mammals are more like their fathers -- ScienceDaily


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    That's just bizarre. 2+2 is not 5, never will be, no matter how many links and kooks you get to back it up. Get it?
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    Re: Obama and Others at Selma

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    That's just bizarre. 2+2 is not 5, never will be, no matter how many links and kooks you get to back it up. Get it?
    So again, and I love that you are ducking and dodging - You have concluded that the vast majority of african americans are also white americans and by doing so have rendered the term "black" useless.

    That is your logic. If it's bizarre, and yeah it kind of is, that's no fault of my own. You made up this new standard by which we determine who is black and white.

    By your logic - no one really is Black. This is not "liberal" logic - this is me corning a conservative and you are so inept now at arguing your own point that you have essentially become a broken record. Repeating yourself over and over again ad nauseam- but despite the rote rhetoric you are not really saying anything.

    How sad.
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    Re: Obama and Others at Selma

    Quote Originally Posted by Paperview View Post
    Ahem...
    Ancestry.com Discovers President Obama Related to First Documented Slave in America

    Research Connects First African-American President to First African Slave in the American Colonies

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    And your comment about you somehow magically knowing if ancestors didn't suffer under "bigotry and oppression, nor did any of them fight against" is pretty dumb.
    That "linkage" doesn't contradict anything I posted whatsoever, does it, as that is a family tree that is of a different branch from any generations earlier.

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    Re: Obama and Others at Selma

    Quote Originally Posted by Zinthaniel View Post
    So again, and I love that you are ducking and dodging - You have concluded that the vast majority of african americans are also white americans and by doing so have rendered the term "black" useless.
    That might not be as bad as Blacks always being portrayed, and used politically,as victims.

    The President mentioned Ferguson, where the DOJ found no wrongdoing by the officer charged, and never mentioned places like Chicago, where hundreds of Blacks are being murdered by other Blacks. This hypocritical selective outrage is not doing either community any good. It's jusy turnng people on each other, with the new White Privilege concept being an example.

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    Re: Obama and Others at Selma

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Invisible View Post
    Yeah, you got a page full of anti-cop protests because that is what is currently in the news and being covered by the major networks.

    "Beyond the data, there’s the anecdotal evidence. And in short, it’s easy to find examples of marches and demonstrations against crime. In the last four years, blacks have held community protests against violence in Chicago; New York; Newark, New Jersey; Pittsburgh; Saginaw, Michigan; and Gary, Indiana" (Black community is concerned with black-on-black crime: Suggesting otherwise is ignoring the facts.)

    Look here as well, it includes a number of links to blacks people protesting black-on-black crime. (Why Don't Black People Protest 'Black-on-Black Violence'? - The Atlantic)

    For NJ more recently look here (In Newark, an anti-violence rally takes over intersection | NJ.com) and Chicago look here (Anti-violence activists protest across city, including at Obama home - Chicago Tribune)

    EDIT: And look here for more NJ black-on-black crime protests (Elizabeth anti-violence protesters stage die-in, while shots fired 2 miles away | NJ.com)

    And while they may be categorized as anti-gun violence protests, we know that it is anti black-on-black crime as these places are majority black towns.
    "About 200 people gathered and marched in Hyde Park and Kenwood Wednesday night, marching through the neighborhood and ending a short time after gathering in front of the Obama family home."



    Its a veritable STORM of protest.

    And this one is a gem...

    "While about 20 protesters blocked the street in front of police headquarters in a demonstration against violence, officers responded to a reported shooting elsewhere in the city." Awesome. 15 minutes after a handful staged a die-in, the bangers showed them how to do it right. And that was the end of THAT protest.

    "Dorie Miller Housing Development residents were reluctant to join a protest march Saturday afternoon, but eventually, more than 50 people congregated in front of a makeshift memorial where 19-year-old Andre Blissitt of Indianapolis was shot and killed Tuesday night."

    That tactic has been tried several times...posting the links to the enormous awareness and conscience movements across the country. The problem is...they show a group of 20 in 2007, 19 in 2008, 35 in 2006....they are weak, poorly attended, ineffective. Wahoo...6 people showed up carrying a placard somewhere...they 'care'.


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    Re: Obama and Others at Selma

    Quote Originally Posted by Zinthaniel View Post
    So again, and I love that you are ducking and dodging - You have concluded that the vast majority of african americans are also white americans and by doing so have rendered the term "black" useless.

    That is your logic. If it's bizarre, and yeah it kind of is, that's no fault of my own. You made up this new standard by which we determine who is black and white.

    By your logic - no one really is Black. This is not "liberal" logic - this is me corning a conservative and you are so inept now at arguing your own point that you have essentially become a broken record. Repeating yourself over and over again ad nauseam- but despite the rote rhetoric you are not really saying anything.

    How sad.
    Wow, you are really grasping at straws now! This is getting good... what else did I say now? Hang on, let me get some popcorn and you can continue. Or just smarten up and stop.
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    Re: Obama and Others at Selma

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    That might not be as bad as Blacks always being portrayed, and used politically,as victims.

    The President mentioned Ferguson, where the DOJ found no wrongdoing by the officer charged, and never mentioned places like Chicago, where hundreds of Blacks are being murdered by other Blacks. This hypocritical selective outrage is not doing either community any good. It's jusy turnng people on each other, with the new White Privilege concept being an example.
    Clearly the over-hype of black oppression is politically motivated. However, that has no bearing on the insanity of arguing Obama is not Black because his mother was white. His physical appearance alone voids that argument.

    Now, are there people of mixed race who do not look Black? Yes. Would I classify them as not Black. Yes. Is the president on of them? No.

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    Re: Obama and Others at Selma

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Clearly the over-hype of black oppression is politically motivated. However, that has no bearing on the insanity of arguing Obama is not Black because his mother was white. His physical appearance alone voids that argument.

    Now, are there people of mixed race who do not look Black? Yes. Would I classify them as not Black. Yes. Is the president on of them? No.
    Ah, so we judge what race you are (at least the left does) based on skin color, and screw your factual racial make up. Nice.
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    Re: Obama and Others at Selma

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    Ah, so we judge what race you are (at least the left does) based on skin color, and screw your factual racial make up. Nice.
    Well, to get technical we are all human race. But, we do judge color on...color.

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