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    Re: PERVERT Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    You said "the vast minority of women... are not attacked" indicating that a majority of women are attacked who walk around alone at night, at least that is how I read it, hence my response. No dishonesty. For one thing, this isn't true. Not many women comparably speaking are attacked even if they walk alone at night drunk. While doing this puts them at a higher risk for attack, attacks are still less likely to happen than to not be attacked.

    Here's the evidence that alcohol contributes to the risk of sexual assault.
    I obviously meant majority... dyslexia. Sue me.

    Now, where would be the evidence that a transgendered person in the locker room or even a policy that allows people to use the restroom/locker room of the sex/gender they identify as increases risk of sexual assault or harassment?
    Why do you insist on this pathetic "danger" bull ****... it is beneath you, or so I thought. Years of belief coming undone in one thread...

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    Re: PERVERT Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    The fact is that you don't know and people make assumptions about gender almost exclusively based on looks, not actual physical aspects of sex, and especially not DNA.
    The question is THAT MAN. You seem to pick and choose when you will acknowledge this fact though... He is a big hairy man in a woman's locker room.

    Go ahead and ignore that ****ing fact again though.

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    Re: PERVERT Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    I obviously meant majority... dyslexia. Sue me.

    Why do you insist on this pathetic "danger" bull ****... it is beneath you, or so I thought. Years of belief coming undone in one thread...
    Because that is what we base laws on, what the claim has been, that transgendered women using the women's restroom/locker room poses a danger to cisgendered women. Otherwise, discomfort and even "privacy" is not a valid argument. You can't claim a right to privacy from only one sex or gender of people, especially not in a public restroom or locker room that is not going to be private. The only privacy right you have is to be able to not let anyone, no matter their sex/gender see you naked if you don't wish them to, which is what stalls provide.
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    Re: PERVERT Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    The question is THAT MAN. You seem to pick and choose when you will acknowledge this fact though... He is a big hairy man in a woman's locker room.

    Go ahead and ignore that ****ing fact again though.
    And there are "big, hairy" women in this world. There are women who naturally look like men.
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    Re: PERVERT Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Because that is what we base laws on, what the claim has been, that transgendered women using the women's restroom/locker room poses a danger to cisgendered women. Otherwise, discomfort and even "privacy" is not a valid argument. You can't claim a right to privacy from only one sex or gender of people, especially not in a public restroom or locker room that is not going to be private. The only privacy right you have is to be able to not let anyone, no matter their sex/gender see you naked if you don't wish them to, which is what stalls provide.

    It is valid if people don't want others in their locker room... and I have shown stats, lets see how you respond to that.

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    Re: PERVERT Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    And there are "big, hairy" women in this world. There are women who naturally look like men.
    Retarded... a woman is not a man. Try again and stop with the stupid bull****.

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    Re: PERVERT Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Retarded... a woman is not a man. Try again and stop with the stupid bull****.
    It doesn't matter if they aren't "a man". Women do not see people naked in restrooms. And even in locker rooms, you aren't going to see very much nakedness and there are rooms available to change in for privacy if they have an issue with either people seeing you naked or you seeing others naked.
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    Re: PERVERT Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    It doesn't matter if they aren't "a man". Women do not see people naked in restrooms. And even in locker rooms, you aren't going to see very much nakedness and there are rooms available to change in for privacy if they have an issue with either people seeing you naked or you seeing others naked.
    This lady and those she talked to say this man in the room... wanna try again?

    ...see you just have your nudist mentality and want to apply it to everybody and IGNORE my posts about statistics... lame.

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    Re: PERVERT Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    It is valid if people don't want others in their locker room... and I have shown stats, lets see how you respond to that.
    No, you haven't provided stats of danger, only that people feel uncomfortable getting naked around anyone. Even in bootcamp, the majority of girls are not comfortable even with getting naked in front of other women. That discomfort is still their issue.

    And the reality is that it is not "their" locker room. The locker room is owned by the company, not the people using it. And there are women who don't care.
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    Re: PERVERT Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    This lady and those she talked to say this man in the room... wanna try again?

    ...see you just have your nudist mentality and want to apply it to everybody and IGNORE my posts about statistics... lame.
    So what? She could have easily been wrong because she still based it off of observations rather than seeing a penis or having a DNA profile of that person, hell even having seen either the person's birth certificate or legal gender.

    The facts are though that she does not own the locker room, the gym does. They get to decide the policy for who is allowed in, not her or other women. If they don't approve of the policy, they are free to find another gym. Many gyms and businesses though are going to this policy, where transgendered people can use the locker room/changing room/restroom of the gender they identify as, especially if their appearance is of that gender.
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