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    PERVERT Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    They are displaying irrational fear and sexism. Most men are not a danger to women. The vast majority of men are not a danger to women.
    A man who claims to be female, and insists on going into women's dressing facilities, cannot be assumed to be harmless. Such behavior is prima facie proof that he is, at the very least, severely disturbed, and lacking in respect for appropriate social boundaries. If someone is so inclined to violate such boundaries to that extent, then there is no reason to assume that he will stop there.
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    Re: Planet Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    A man who claims to be female, and insists on going into women's dressing facilities, cannot be assumed to be harmless. Such behavior is prima facie proof that he is, at the very least, severely disturbed, and lacking in respect for appropriate social boundaries. If someone is so inclined to violate such boundaries to that extent, then there is no reason to assume that he will stop there.
    Yes, she can. There is no evidence to say otherwise, not even statistics support another assumption as far as her threat level is concerned. It is simply irrational fear and misguided beliefs that cause people to get upset about this. There is no actual evidence that transgendered people using the restroom/locker room/changing room of their identified gender puts anyone in danger from them.
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    PERVERT Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Yes, she can. There is no evidence to say otherwise, not even statistics support another assumption as far as her threat level is concerned. It is simply irrational fear and misguided beliefs that cause people to get upset about this. There is no actual evidence that transgendered people using the restroom/locker room/changing room of their identified gender puts anyone in danger from them.
    There is nothing irrational at all irrational about my assumption;.

    It already violates established and widely-accepted boundaries of decency for a man to be in a woman's locker room.

    Any decent man would never go there. One who would, there's no rational reason to assume that he'll stop there, without crossing even farther into inappropriate behavior, if he thinks he can get away with it.


    On another note, the sick pervert who started this particular controversy has reopened his Facebook page to public view. I invite anyone to view it for themselves, and see just what sort of sickness it is that you are defending.

    https://www.facebook.com/carlotta.sklodowska

    I have to admit that I had a bit of doubt when I saw this gem being passed around, but sure enough, there it is on his own web page, straight from the pervert's mouth.

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    Re: PERVERT Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    There is nothing irrational at all irrational about my assumption;.

    It already violates established and widely-accepted boundaries of decency for a man to be in a woman's locker room.

    Any decent man would never go there. One who would, there's no rational reason to assume that he'll stop there, without crossing even farther into inappropriate behavior, if he thinks he can get away with it.


    On another note, the sick pervert who started this particular controversy has reopened his Facebook page to public view. I invite anyone to view it for themselves, and see just what sort of sickness it is that you are defending.

    https://www.facebook.com/carlotta.sklodowska
    Apparently his favorite books include "Sex Tips for Girls" and "Candy Girl: A Year in the Life of an Unlikely Stripper
    "

    Disgusting.

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    Re: PERVERT Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Apparently his favorite books include "Sex Tips for Girls" and "Candy Girl: A Year in the Life of an Unlikely Stripper
    "

    Disgusting.
    And that's the sort of scumbag that Roguenuke, et. al. think should be allowed into the women's facilities where our mothers, wives, sisters, daughters, and such will be undressing and showering.

    And it's we, on the right, who are often accused of waging a “war on women”.
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    Re: PERVERT Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    And that's the sort of scumbag that Roguenuke, et. al. think should be allowed into the women's facilities where our mothers, wives, sisters, daughters, and such will be undressing and showering.

    And it's we, on the right, who are often accused of waging a “war on women”.
    How can anyone say the actual woman had her membership revoked was wrong for not wanting to be around this guy?
    "sex tips for girls"? Really?

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    Re: PERVERT Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint

    I am seeing an interesting/worrying possibility here.

    How do you determined when someone who is physically male or female, yet claims to be mentally the opposite sex, a neutral sex, or something else.

    Is telling the truth?

    Would anyone lie about that?
    A few, probably...


    I see four options here.

    1. An individual is allowed in the restroom/changing room/group shower/whatever assigned to the sex they claim to be. This would of course include those who change sex randomly, at random times. Yes, they exist. Or at least according to an interview I heard on NPR, for whatever that's worth.
    2. No group showers/restrooms/etc.
    3. Everyone uses the same room, regardless of gender. Private rooms available for those who wish to use them.
    4. We discover a way to tell which sex a person is mentally, and let them use a restroom/changing room/whatever depending on what that may be.



    That doesn't really help at all.


    However, one thing I am fairly sure of - determining sex by physical attributes or even DNA is not an accurate method.
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    Re: PERVERT Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    I am seeing an interesting/worrying possibility here.

    How do you determined when someone who is physically male or female, yet claims to be mentally the opposite sex, a neutral sex, or something else.

    Is telling the truth?

    Would anyone lie about that?
    A few, probably...


    I see four options here.

    1. An individual is allowed in the restroom/changing room/group shower/whatever assigned to the sex they claim to be. This would of course include those who change sex randomly, at random times. Yes, they exist. Or at least according to an interview I heard on NPR, for whatever that's worth.
    2. No group showers/restrooms/etc.
    3. Everyone uses the same room, regardless of gender. Private rooms available for those who wish to use them.
    4. We discover a way to tell which sex a person is mentally, and let them use a restroom/changing room/whatever depending on what that may be.



    That doesn't really help at all.


    However, one thing I am fairly sure of - determining sex by physical attributes or even DNA is not an accurate method.
    We could simply not care. Provide separate restrooms/changing rooms/locker rooms for the genders/sexes, and possibly a third one for families (as several places have, especially for restrooms), and simply allow anyone to enter. The vast majority of people will use the room designated for their gender/sex. Why? Because that is what they are used to. Because that is what they feel most comfortable using. It isn't about the people around us either. You could leave someone alone, being the only person in the entire building, and they would still use the restroom/changing room designated for the gender/sex they identify as because that is what we are used to and therefore feel most comfortable with, people being grouped by "gender/sex" in certain things. But we also recognize, if only subconsciously, that this identification when it comes to others is based almost exclusively on physical attributes and assumptions others make about the physical aspects of others. This is why I will always direct people to the "designated" fitting room at my work based on how they present themselves, despite knowing that they can use either one without even having to identify as the sex they are entering.
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    Re: PERVERT Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    We could simply not care. Provide separate restrooms/changing rooms/locker rooms for the genders/sexes, and possibly a third one for families (as several places have, especially for restrooms), and simply allow anyone to enter. The vast majority of people will use the room designated for their gender/sex. Why? Because that is what they are used to. Because that is what they feel most comfortable using. It isn't about the people around us either. You could leave someone alone, being the only person in the entire building, and they would still use the restroom/changing room designated for the gender/sex they identify as because that is what we are used to and therefore feel most comfortable with, people being grouped by "gender/sex" in certain things. But we also recognize, if only subconsciously, that this identification when it comes to others is based almost exclusively on physical attributes and assumptions others make about the physical aspects of others. This is why I will always direct people to the "designated" fitting room at my work based on how they present themselves, despite knowing that they can use either one without even having to identify as the sex they are entering.
    YOU dont care. You have said your family member is transgender.

    That does not mean others dont.

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    Re: PERVERT Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    YOU dont care. You have said your family member is transgender.

    That does not mean others dont.
    I haven't cared since before I found out I had a transgendered sibling.

    And so what if others care? They need to get over it. If they can't handle changes in societal norms, that is their problem. They will adapt or not. It likely won't change their lives that much for that long. Society changes. Social norms change. It is part of life.
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