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    Re: Planet Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint

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    I apologize for forgetting about your post. I was working when I viewed it, therefore on my phone, and it didn't become a priority.
    No offense but if one of my posts ever becomes a priority for you I would be worried...

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    PERVERT Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    It doesn't matter how much you feel "he" couldn't possibly pass as a woman. There are ways to change "his" appearance that would allow "him" to pass. But it doesn't matter because Planet Fitness, the company that owns the gym and locker rooms in question says "he" doesn't have to pass for a woman, only identify as one to use that locker room.
    Which makes a farce of the distinction between men's and women's dressing facilities, and shows an inexcusable lack of respect and concern for their female members.

    Any women who care at all about their modesty or safety should not do business with Pervert Fitness until they change that policy to something more in line with basic common decency, and men who care about the women in their life should similarly not do business with Pervert Fitness.

    If Pervert Fitness wants to cater to creepy sexual deviants and predators, then let them try to survive just on that clientele.
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    Re: Planet Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    It doesn't matter how much you feel "he" couldn't possibly pass as a woman. There are ways to change "his" appearance that would allow "him" to pass. But it doesn't matter because Planet Fitness, the company that owns the gym and locker rooms in question says "he" doesn't have to pass for a woman, only identify as one to use that locker room.
    I honestly think you are arguing just to be a contrarian...

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    Re: Planet Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    You are not being honest (no offense) when you compare having a man in a female locker room with a woman with tats in the locker room. I won't even respond to that beyond this point.

    More for third... there is no question that is a man. Another wacky counter-argument.

    Bigotry is based on how you feel. A person can be a bigot without expressing it to anybody. They can be at home and say, "those ****ing queers should never be out in public" and you would never know it but that does not mean that they are not a bigot. Regarding mind readers... NOW, if you want to call a person a bigot you have to see them express it. To know they are a bigot requires their expressing it but to be a bigot requires that nobody else even be aware of it. I a serial killer not a serial killer if they never get caught?
    First, no dishonesty. There are those women who you can't tell. How many people actually believed that Chandler's dad was really a man? But in reality, we are basing whether the complainer could tell off of photos that were not of the transgendered woman in question as she appeared at the gym. We don't know what her appearance there was. Many transgendered women and men actually do better with their appearance when not trying to dress up, but rather dressing casually, as she likely did at the gym.

    Second. Discomfort is discomfort. If anyone doesn't want to change in front of or even take the chance of changing in front of certain other people, there are other options, including changing in a stall or waiting for the person to leave, especially since she wasn't even in there long. There is also changing at home or in the ladies room if you are that nervous about it.

    Last, bigotry is basically irrelevant if it is never acted upon. A serial killer is a person that actually has killed someone, not simply thought about killing a bunch of people. You are not a serial killer if you never actually killed someone.
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    Re: Planet Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    First, no dishonesty. There are those women who you can't tell. How many people actually believed that Chandler's dad was really a man? But in reality, we are basing whether the complainer could tell off of photos that were not of the transgendered woman in question as she appeared at the gym. We don't know what her appearance there was. Many transgendered women and men actually do better with their appearance when not trying to dress up, but rather dressing casually, as she likely did at the gym.

    Second. Discomfort is discomfort. If anyone doesn't want to change in front of or even take the chance of changing in front of certain other people, there are other options, including changing in a stall or waiting for the person to leave, especially since she wasn't even in there long. There is also changing at home or in the ladies room if you are that nervous about it.

    Last, bigotry is basically irrelevant if it is never acted upon. A serial killer is a person that actually has killed someone, not simply thought about killing a bunch of people. You are not a serial killer if you never actually killed someone.
    Bigotry is about thought... not action. Again, I think you are being a contrarian at this point. Your arguments are that ridiculous this time.

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    Re: Planet Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    I honestly think you are arguing just to be a contrarian...
    No. I am arguing from experience. I have a transgendered sister. She is over 6 feet tall and was larger in stature prior to the last few years. She also is still learning how to wear makeup for a more natural look and wear clothing that accentuates her body as feminine rather than just looking like a guy wearing feminine clothing. She has just started hormone therapy.

    I have also come across a guy who wasn't transgendered at all but that I thought was a woman by his voice when he asked me from behind for change. I've mistakenly called a woman "sir" because she looked like a he from the back. I've met a woman who I would have thought was a woman from birth had my sister not told me she was transgendered. (Absolutely beautiful woman.)
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    Re: Planet Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Bigotry is about thought... not action. Again, I think you are being a contrarian at this point. Your arguments are that ridiculous this time.
    Reality shows that bigotry is about action because without the actions, no one even knows about the bigotry that a person might think about.
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    Re: Planet Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    Which makes a farce of the distinction between men's and women's dressing facilities, and shows an inexcusable lack of respect and concern for their female members.

    Any women who care at all about their modesty or safety should not do business with Pervert Fitness until they change that policy to something more in line with basic common decency, and men who care about the women in their life should similarly not do business with Pervert Fitness.

    If Pervert Fitness wants to cater to creepy sexual deviants and predators, then let them try to survive just on that clientele.
    Or they simply don't feel it is that big of a deal. Some of us don't feel that transgendered people are any sort of danger to us, nor is allowing them in the locker rooms/restrooms a danger to us because we know the reality is that rapists and those who would sexually assault a woman wouldn't do so in such a public space.
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    PERVERT Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint

    I've posted a poll, to see what women really think of sharing a ocker room with men.

    I ask any women (real women only, not “transgender women” who are really men, or at most eunuchs) to go vote in my poll.

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/sex-an...ing-rooms.html
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    Re: Planet Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Reality shows that bigotry is about action because without the actions, no one even knows about the bigotry that a person might think about.
    No. Wrong. Bigotry is about thought. Knowing or seeing bigotry is about action. My grandmother is a racist sexist bigot that nobody would ever know except she slips and makes comments to family from time to time. Nobody outside a few of us knows this. She is a racist sexist bigot. You are arguing that if you don't see it it isn't true. You are arguing that the tree did not make a sound as it fell because you did not hear it yourself. That is ridiculous. I am about done with this argument with you. I agree with you far too often and think you are far too smart to be making such arguments and I can see that because of your family member you are emotionally compromised. It happened to Spock too and Kirk was promoted to acting Captain as a result...

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